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> race gas revisited, why and when?
Trekkor
post Mar 17 2005, 09:02 PM
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Bought a five gallon jug of leaded 110 octane "VP" brand racing fuel. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

My motor seems to have higher than stock compression. Lowest is 160 PSI.

My speed shop guy says the valves will like the lead. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif)

Maybe I just like throwing money out my open windows at speed... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)

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post Apr 10 2005, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Apr 9 2005, 08:17 PM)
The acceleration is smooth then the power COMES ON after about 4500rpm's in a BIG STRONG way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

Drove it out to the track today. I only noticed a little popping and sneezing out the carbs on cruising speed. Say 3000rpm's

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cool. that's where your cams come in.
but it has nothing to do with your ignition advance curve...

this is not a seat-of-pants thing.

the best way to find out what you've got (besides probably 5* too much advance) is to pull the dizzy and have it checked out by someone with a distributor machine. the correct curves are published in the factory workshop manuals; if you have the distributor number (ideally, the Porsche number although the Bosch number isd better than nothing...) we can track down what the curve *should* be.

lacking that, the best thing to do it watch the timing marks with a timing light, which i understand is a PITA on a /6 (BTDT). the next time i install an engine in a /6 i'm going to put different-colored paint dots every 5 degrees from Z1 to 35* si can see right away what it is i'm looking at... anyway - you need to verify that the advance comes in -relatively- smoothly. there are a couple of little bumps but basically it's pretty smooth. what it should *not* do is come in very quickly at too low rpm (like the dizzy in my E does - it's basically all in by 2500 and i have to be pretty careful with lugging. i'll fix it when the engine comes out...)

the popping and sneezing sounds you have a bit of the standard transition-to-mains Weber flat spot. i would try to go up a couple of steps richer on the emulsion tubes.
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trekkor   race gas revisited   Mar 17 2005, 09:02 PM
scott thacher   well the leaded end of it acts as a lube on the va...   Mar 17 2005, 10:04 PM
trekkor   It'll be fun to try it, anyway. Who doesn...   Mar 18 2005, 12:33 AM
synthesisdv   My motor is set-up for 110. We have a VP distribut...   Mar 18 2005, 07:26 AM
scott thacher   as david said it can handle some more advance too...   Mar 18 2005, 07:35 AM
Jake Raby   An engine tuned for pump gas will normally make LE...   Mar 18 2005, 09:28 AM
john rogers   As Jake noted, you may loose power since race gas ...   Mar 18 2005, 09:34 AM
trekkor   My *plan* was to run a couple gallons on top of a ...   Mar 18 2005, 09:40 AM
Jake Raby   You'll still need some retuning... I have fou...   Mar 18 2005, 09:45 AM
scott thacher   with av gas, i only used it in my motorcycle. it d...   Mar 18 2005, 09:50 AM
Dave_Darling   Anecdote, from my grandfather, retired A&P mechani...   Mar 18 2005, 05:02 PM
lapuwali   One also shouldn't generalize and say things l...   Mar 18 2005, 05:20 PM
TimT   I rec3ently read an article in the NY Times. Gist ...   Mar 18 2005, 05:39 PM
sixnotfour   That motor is an older motor and 110 will perk it ...   Mar 18 2005, 05:52 PM
trekkor   OK, the motor is from a 1967 911. With 9.0:1 CR i...   Mar 18 2005, 06:37 PM
lapuwali   <...   Mar 18 2005, 06:53 PM
TimT   That 67S distributor is a hot ticket! I sold ...   Mar 18 2005, 06:59 PM
TimT   I agree with assholes garage h...   Mar 18 2005, 07:05 PM
trekkor   I dumped it in there and ran it tonight. http://www.9...   Mar 19 2005, 01:27 AM
V6914   The thing about AV Fuel, you have to remember wher...   Mar 19 2005, 02:15 AM
trekkor   Point of interest: Topped off with pump gas, and...   Apr 8 2005, 05:41 PM
lapuwali     Apr 8 2005, 06:00 PM
trekkor   Right now the concentration of high octane in the ...   Apr 8 2005, 06:16 PM
ArtechnikA     Apr 8 2005, 06:24 PM
trekkor   This dizzy gives me 35 degrees advance at 6k. KT   Apr 8 2005, 06:41 PM
trekkor   You all should know what a freak I really am. I pu...   Apr 9 2005, 11:26 AM
nebreitling   that's sick trekkor... just sick.   Apr 9 2005, 11:41 AM
J P Stein   I've never heard my 6er ping, but have felt it...   Apr 9 2005, 12:09 PM
grantsfo     Apr 9 2005, 12:35 PM
ArtechnikA     Apr 9 2005, 04:01 PM
trekkor   The acceleration is smooth then the power COMES ON...   Apr 9 2005, 07:17 PM
trekkor   Thanks very much for the good advice, once again. ...   Apr 10 2005, 09:08 AM


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