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> 914 Exhaust Leak, 914 backfires on decel
Nemo914
post Jul 11 2003, 06:12 PM
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Just found this site. Wow. Great info. I have had my 72 914 for 30 yrs. Restored it 10 yrs ago. Still all original--fuel injected. Since then, it has been driven very little (unfortunately). In the last year, I have started getting a popping or backfire on decceleration. It is getting worse and worse. The car drives great and strong other than this annoying habbit. I heard about the exhuast leak possibility and put my had under the car while it was running. I can feel airflow under each heat-exchanger to head connection! Is this normal? I don't understand how ALL could be leaking. I used the copper rings when I connected them 10 yrs ago. Could they be going bad?? I need an expert!!
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I will search some other reasons why it might be backfiring before I rip out the exhaust system.


Don't waste your time. The exhaust is the most likely culprit and you know that you already have a problem (broken stud) so start there.

First off, get a can of PB Blaster and soak any and all of the bolts that you will encounter in the exhaust system. Then, start working from the back of the car forward (you really need to do it this way anyway).

Remove the muffler and exhaust from the heat exchangers. This involves six bolts and is pretty easy to do. After you drop these items check them very carefully for rust and holes. Holes even this far back in the system can cause a backfire problem. If you find any problems here, come back and tell us. We can then have a week-long discussion about what muffler you should buy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Even if everything is good, you will need to buy two muffler gaskets for reassembly. I would also recommend that you buy new bolts and washers.

Even if you found a problem at the rear, we are not done yet. You mention that these are the original heat exchangers. I would put these at the top of the list of suspects. You live in the Northeast and on the ocean, so I would think that your 32 year-old HEs might have a problem. You are going to have to go in and drop the heat exchangers. There are two things that will make this job a little easier, a torch and a stud puller. Use the torch to apply heat to the bolts that are still there. Use the torch and stud puller to remove the one that is already broken. Drop the HEs and inspect for rust and holes. Replace as necessary. Don't forget that you are going to need new copper gaskets. Those shouldn't be reused. You should also get 8 new exhaust nuts.

If you need to replace them, I would definitely go with stainless steel heat exchangers. I think that you will need to find a good used set for your car.

Now, as far as replacing that broken stud, I'll let other chime in as to what is best.

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Nemo914   914 Exhaust Leak   Jul 11 2003, 06:12 PM
redshift   ExPeRT!? NO! YOU NEED A COMPETE IDIOT...   Jul 11 2003, 06:21 PM
vsg914   backfire on decel is "a" sign of exhaust leaks. If...   Jul 11 2003, 06:24 PM
Nemo914   I wish I had found you guys sooner! I did get...   Jul 11 2003, 06:55 PM
vsg914   The air you feel could also be coming from the hea...   Jul 11 2003, 07:23 PM
McMark   The air you feel is the cylinder cooling air.   Jul 11 2003, 08:01 PM
Nemo914   You guys have all been a great help! I will s...   Jul 11 2003, 08:30 PM
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Anton   One issue hasn't been raised: overly rich comb...   Jul 12 2003, 07:17 AM
Bleyseng   My advice on old HE's is that when re-installi...   Jul 12 2003, 08:03 AM
seanery   I know for a fact that new SS heat exchangers exis...   Jul 12 2003, 08:45 AM
Nemo914   Wow--I appreciate all the world class advice. The...   Jul 12 2003, 10:28 AM
MarkV   Here is a set for sale on Ebay. The ad says he is ...   Jul 12 2003, 10:49 AM
nebreitling   i was told that having a leaky exhaust (which caus...   Jul 12 2003, 12:40 PM
redshift   Once again: Detonation is a killer, deal-ender, s...   Jul 12 2003, 05:28 PM
Nemo914   Just bought used S/S heat exchangers on ebay. Als...   Jul 15 2003, 05:16 PM
Brad Roberts   Examine the "ears" on the SSI's when you get t...   Jul 15 2003, 06:37 PM
Brad Roberts   Oh.. welcome to the site. I can easily say we hav...   Jul 15 2003, 06:38 PM
MarkV   <...   Jul 15 2003, 06:47 PM
Brad Roberts   I didnt read his whole question.. B << I'm th...   Jul 15 2003, 06:50 PM
rhodyguy   to be safe, give them about 3 days soaking with re...   Jul 15 2003, 07:01 PM
Brad Roberts   They are a different length. Your cylinders are o...   Jul 15 2003, 07:03 PM
Brad Roberts   They are 1.7/1.8 HE's... NOT 2.0 B   Jul 15 2003, 07:05 PM
Joe Ricard   I would like to echo all the "SMART 914 owners" ...   Jul 15 2003, 07:25 PM
Brad Roberts   You can seal both sides.. nothing wrong with that ...   Jul 15 2003, 07:31 PM
boston914   I have a '76 that backfires. After a recent t...   Jul 15 2003, 08:11 PM
Nemo914   Definitely some smart 914 folks on this site! ...   Jul 15 2003, 08:31 PM
Lawrence914-6   I just bought exhaust studs for my 914/6 from my F...   Jul 15 2003, 08:35 PM
Nemo914   :dance: Got it! I will let you all know if ...   Jul 15 2003, 09:03 PM
Brad Roberts   Boston, First off let me welcome you to the BBS ...   Jul 15 2003, 10:06 PM
seanery   Hey Brad, Is that anything like the '68 912 h...   Jul 15 2003, 10:09 PM


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