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> MFI for a Type 4, Any interst?
Dr Evil
post Jun 22 2005, 05:49 PM
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I have been brain storming again and think that I may have found a feasable MFI pump for our beloved TIV 4cyl.

Any interest?
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post Jun 22 2005, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (avendlerdp @ Jun 22 2005, 08:52 PM)
THe Alfa pump would be the low buck way to go due it's availability. There where only small changes in the space cam over the years with the '74 2.0 one being the best for Alfa performance. The oiling thing is easy to solve too. Just make a cover for the port in the side and fill the pump with oil. The oil barely circulates with the rest of the engine in the stock set up so I bet if you just changed it when you changes the engine oil there would never be an issue. It you wanted you could just have a high pressure line with a very small restrictor go the the pump and a drainback line. The pumps are very adjustable if you know how. There is a company called Wes Ingrham Inc. that rebuilds the pumps and can make custom cams etc.

I have a V8 though so don't ask me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

I didn't know Wes could make new cams...Hmm.

No reason you couldn't do MFI with a V8. Alfa did with the Montreal. Two 4-cylinder pumps end to end, with only one logic section.

MFI, electronic or no, would be more expensive than an EFI system (and you don't really have to rebuild anything regularly on the EFI), but it has a number of inherent advantages. EFI has a really hard time doing sequential at anything over a 40% load or thereabouts, unless you use multiple injectors per cylinder and stage them. Vaporization is better with MFI just from the higher pressures involved. Since all gas MFI systems have just been modified diesel systems, and diesel is nearly always direct injection into the cylinder, you can make MFI into gasoline direct injection relatively easily. This brings a number of advantages in operating at the edges of the envelope, and can bring big gains in emissions while retaining wild valve timing.

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Dr Evil   MFI for a Type 4   Jun 22 2005, 05:49 PM
Mueller   would it happen to be made by MSD??? Brand new MF...   Jun 22 2005, 05:55 PM
ClayPerrine   That would be somewhat simple. Get one from a BM...   Jun 22 2005, 06:42 PM
Dave_Darling   Ron Mistak in Sandy Eggo has MFI on his four-cylin...   Jun 22 2005, 06:53 PM
redshift   Clay, you remind me of someone...   Jun 22 2005, 06:53 PM
lapuwali   And they cost something like $1500-2000 to re...   Jun 22 2005, 06:58 PM
ArtechnikA   ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:38 PM
lapuwali   ...   Jun 22 2005, 09:02 PM
Thorshammer   The pumps are Kugelfisher and they aren't that...   Jun 22 2005, 09:09 PM
ClayPerrine   ...   Jun 22 2005, 09:31 PM
avendlerdp   THe Alfa pump would be the low buck way to go due ...   Jun 22 2005, 10:52 PM
lapuwali   ...   Jun 23 2005, 09:19 AM
michel richard   http://www.914w...   Jun 23 2005, 09:39 AM
ClayPerrine   <...   Jun 23 2005, 09:49 AM
McMark   Yeah, very interesting. A thanks to the members o...   Jun 23 2005, 10:06 AM
Dr Evil   ...   Jun 23 2005, 11:55 AM
michel richard     Jun 23 2005, 09:49 PM
J P Stein   Wyane Baker ran MFI on his 220hp, 2.2L, t-4 race c...   Jun 23 2005, 09:49 PM
Dave_Darling   I think that is the car that Mistak has now--or ha...   Jun 24 2005, 11:05 AM
kwales   James, I guess we both misremember. The 1750 en...   Jun 24 2005, 10:00 PM
lapuwali     Jun 24 2005, 11:17 PM


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