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> well i convinced some one else to, suburize
scotty914
post Jul 6 2005, 02:11 PM
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a newer member with the name of mongol something or other real name evan ordered his 2002 suby 2.5 engine yesturday. the motor is a 60 K mile engine for 1600 complete including the harness, exhaust mainfold, ecu ie everything. he looked locally but they wanted 2800 for everything. the only down fall is the shipping from kali to maryland ran him 285.

basicly he puts 300 to 400 miles a week on his car and wants more power better gas milage than his raby parts 2056.

the funny part is after i gave him a test run and he says his 2056 with about 120 hp feels like a dog. the great part was when i gave his GF a ride she did not but giggle and said he does not need that much hp

we east coast 914ers are taking over (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/assimilate.gif) and i am forming a subculture of suby conversions (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) , with a few seeds thrown around the country ie Tony
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post Aug 5 2005, 12:52 AM
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The catless uppipe does add some HP, not a super lot but some. Aftermarket uppipes with larger diameters and better designs tend to do a bit more. There have been a few issues with the pre-turbo cat causing premature turbo failures due to pieces of the cat material being sucked into the turbo (the 2006 subaru turbo motors are no longer using the pre-turbo cat and are instead using a pump-type emissions system).

Right now there are alot of companies putting out 400-550whp kits for WRX's and STI's but that stuff does get quite expensive (its said for over 400whp you need internal work done... forged pistons and such, better heads, cams, etc.). The good news about all this is the sheer number of options that simply were not availible 4 or 5 years ago (even 2 years ago). Another plus with this means there are ALOT of OEM parts floating around, so if you choose say a EJ20T you can find an STI intercooler, injectors, even the stock STI turbo for very little and have yourself a ~300hp motor without too much effort.

If you really want to do this on a small budget, I just had a friend who found one of the early 90's legacy turbo's at a pick n' pull and he bought the whole motor/etc. out of there for like $200. The ej22t actually has probably the best shortblock subaru ever made. The heads are SOHC and not worth mentioning, but even with that block you can use an old TD05-16g from one of the JDM EJ20G motors (which can be had for ~$300) and a WRX/STI intercooler along with some engine management and again have a ~300hp subie motor for next to nothing.

As far as whether a 914 tranny can handle all that, I have no idea. Transmissions are the weak point in Subarus too but for different reasons (AWD = Grip, Grip + Massive TQ = Blown stock tranny). Axles havent been too much of an issue for subaru transmissions though, but my thinking is that if you kept the power within reasonable limits and not too much initial torque from the motor maybe the axles will hold up? Im sure it would be an easier motor to deal with in that reguards compaired to some of the V8's that people have used.
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scott thacher   well i convinced some one else to   Jul 6 2005, 02:11 PM
tat2dphreak   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Jul 6 2005, 02:16 PM
scottb   though i have not seen nor ridden in a v8 or v6 co...   Jul 6 2005, 02:27 PM
nebreitling   very cool. an extra point for you east-coasters.....   Jul 6 2005, 02:51 PM
ewdysar   So should a Subaru conversion be called a Sub-vers...   Jul 6 2005, 03:13 PM
TonyAKAVW   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jul 6 2005, 03:22 PM
airsix   ...   Jul 6 2005, 05:02 PM
scott thacher   i under stand you opinion matt, but my car is runn...   Jul 6 2005, 05:10 PM
Mueller   I'm not ready to give up on my Type IV, but th...   Jul 6 2005, 05:20 PM
Mueller   the key thing is to document everything used for t...   Jul 6 2005, 05:22 PM
scott thacher   my hacked dumb assed current owner wiring looks ba...   Jul 6 2005, 05:23 PM
pokey1168     Jul 6 2005, 05:28 PM
scott thacher   no body cutting at all, just removed the engine sh...   Jul 6 2005, 05:28 PM
TonyAKAVW   Reliable is of course what you make of it... But t...   Jul 6 2005, 05:30 PM
scottb     Jul 6 2005, 05:31 PM
pokey1168   http://www.914wo...   Jul 7 2005, 01:19 AM
LvSteveH   We just worked on a 400+ hp suby powered sand car ...   Jul 7 2005, 01:31 AM
banksyinoz   my need of info on possible shaft theories is of i...   Jul 7 2005, 02:42 AM
eric914   Add me to the list. In the last week I bought an ...   Jul 31 2005, 08:20 PM
scott thacher   i have heard that the cat before the turbo when by...   Jul 31 2005, 09:28 PM


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