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scotty914
post Aug 29 2005, 02:39 PM
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okay with the hurrican i have been watching a lot of fox news. according to opec they will pump more oil to help. here is the crazy part opec is going to hold a meeting next month to figure out why gas prices are as high as they are, they stated the opec pumps and sells the oil at 12 per barrel.

so who ever is buying the oil at 12 per barrel is marking it up to a current price of 67 a barrel, i wonder if this is along the lines of enron, artificially marking up the oil.

i have read a few things lately about oil wells, some thing like 70 % of the wells that were dry 10 to 20 years ago now have oil in them again, and but that they mean full flow pumping, not partial.

right now there is a 55 billion gallon oil surpluse ( just heard it ) in storage in this country.

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okay, i dont see some of the crap over seas as being the problem, opec sells the gas to who ever can buy it for 12 a barrel, so opec does not make that much, compaired to the price here. so who marks it up, not opec.

also i have read a bunch of stuff about the wells filling back up after 10 to 20 years, so it might not be a finite of a resource as we have been told.

now lets take texas, go drive thru that state and you will see a lot of wells shut off, they say it is because it costs more to get the oil out of the ground than its worth (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bs.gif) , if they can pump it and sell it for 12 a barrel in the middle east, why not here, lets say the labor costs twice as much, that still does not make it cost 67 a barrel. i would bet the texas pumps are shut off so they can get more for the ones they have running. and why use up thier oil if they dont have to.

as for demand i believe that is bull too, if that was true then thier would be shortages.

its is as simple as they will just keep inflating prices and blaming it on other stuff ( hurricans, terroists ) until they see a drop in use, which they wont.

the news today said that a lot of people in the country now are starting to cut back on other stuff so they can afford to go to work. they are finding a lot of single parent families are not doing vactions and not buying thier kids new cloths for the school year because they spent the extra money on gas over the last year.

i would be a fan on a wider sweeping gas guzzler tax and to lower the tax for normal cars, i mean the hummer 2 gets 8 mpg, and they lied about it and said it 12 so it would not have a guzzler tax, make it so real world testing determins it.

i pay about 50 cents per gallon tax on gas in maryland, and thats just to the state

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scott thacher   gas prices   Aug 29 2005, 02:39 PM
olav   I wonder if that is how the war is being financed?...   Aug 29 2005, 02:55 PM
!   Naw....no big secret....we're just getting dic...   Aug 29 2005, 03:03 PM
tdgray   Come on' guys... just good old greed, nothin e...   Aug 29 2005, 03:10 PM
lapuwali   There are "emergency reserves", which are held by ...   Aug 29 2005, 03:24 PM
SGB   Please don't rely on the media (fox, cnn, npr,...   Aug 29 2005, 03:41 PM
scott thacher   no the 55 billion gallons is privately held by the...   Aug 29 2005, 03:52 PM
914GT     Aug 29 2005, 04:03 PM
AndyC   Damn you guys have it sooooooo bad ...   Aug 29 2005, 04:07 PM
brer   so who's ready for life after the crash then? ...   Aug 29 2005, 04:12 PM
cooltimes   Isn't this likely just business as usual in th...   Aug 29 2005, 04:15 PM
brer     Aug 29 2005, 04:15 PM
double-a   it's a bit like diamonds really. you go into a...   Aug 29 2005, 04:39 PM
Howard   Just wondering... Did my early Sunday AM canyon to...   Aug 29 2005, 04:44 PM
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SLITS   I typed something but then deleted it....after all...   Aug 29 2005, 05:00 PM
xitspd     Aug 29 2005, 05:09 PM
MattR   i'd like to put out a public apology. My rece...   Aug 29 2005, 05:10 PM
Aaron Cox     Aug 29 2005, 05:15 PM
cooltimes     Aug 29 2005, 05:23 PM
dmenche914   Oil prices being high are due to the raise in dema...   Aug 29 2005, 07:46 PM
Mrs. K     Aug 29 2005, 07:57 PM
lapuwali   The main point of that graph was to show that, unt...   Aug 29 2005, 08:23 PM
redshift     Aug 29 2005, 08:27 PM
redshift   Our biggest problem is refining. We have a daily ...   Aug 29 2005, 09:14 PM
JB 914     Aug 29 2005, 09:17 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Aug 29 2005, 09:27 PM
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Speedster07   I lived in the big D and sold oil for Sunset Energ...   Aug 29 2005, 10:38 PM
scott thacher   ...   Aug 29 2005, 10:44 PM
JB 914   ...   Aug 30 2005, 01:41 AM
Brent   ...   Aug 30 2005, 01:47 AM
redshift     Aug 30 2005, 09:55 AM
AndyC     Aug 30 2005, 10:10 AM
Sammy   We have a responsibility to verify that things we ...   Aug 30 2005, 10:16 AM
lapuwali   Well done, Sammy.   Aug 30 2005, 10:26 AM
Sammy   One last thing: $67 a barrel for crude oil i...   Aug 30 2005, 11:22 AM
Rockaria   I have a plan to bottom out the oil market and get...   Aug 30 2005, 11:39 AM
lapuwali   ...   Aug 30 2005, 11:51 AM
Sammy   That is in part why I am invested in independant o...   Aug 30 2005, 12:36 PM
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markb     Aug 30 2005, 01:37 PM
Sammy   The last new oil refinery in the US was built in 1...   Aug 30 2005, 02:21 PM
brer   At what point does the cost of fuel make your 914 ...   Aug 30 2005, 02:32 PM
markb     Aug 30 2005, 02:49 PM
cooltimes   When nobody has any money left after buying a tank...   Aug 30 2005, 05:17 PM
Brent     Aug 30 2005, 05:33 PM
Brent     Aug 30 2005, 05:40 PM
Sammy   they went from just under 6% profit last year, to ...   Aug 30 2005, 06:21 PM
redshift     Aug 30 2005, 06:30 PM
redshift   Oil is not drying up for a while. The problem is ...   Aug 30 2005, 06:35 PM
markb   Hmmm, sounds like I need to invest in SammySeals...   Aug 30 2005, 07:09 PM
SGB   hmmm, Sounds like miles needs a little sleep (or i...   Aug 30 2005, 10:30 PM
grantsfo   Buy oil stocks and drive a car that gets 50 mpg. T...   Aug 30 2005, 10:36 PM
Sammy   Whooooo Hooooo! Valero VLO just broke $1...   Aug 31 2005, 08:39 AM
Brent   Good for you Sammy... its probably due to the mis-...   Aug 31 2005, 12:47 PM
redshift   Watch it Sammy! The tide is getting tricky. ...   Aug 31 2005, 07:58 PM
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