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olav
post Oct 24 2005, 12:10 PM
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I've been noticing a lot of people mentioning that the suspension system in a 914 is no match for modern suspension system. Some even mention that a Neon's suspension is better.

What are the problems with the 914's suspension that make it so uncompetitive with the newer cars?

Is it that the 914's suspension in some peoples cars is so old ie old bushings, shocks, torsion bars that are worn, etc that newer cars just have newer parts which makes them better or is the actual design of the suspension been superceded?

Just curious.

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post Oct 24 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (olav @ Oct 24 2005, 10:27 AM)
I'm asking because some people claim that a stock Neon, for example, would out handle a 914 with trick stuff in a A/X event. So that go me wondering why?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is horseshit. A stock Neon would in no way outhandle a tricked-out 914, unless the 914 was tricked out in completely the wrong way and had completely shot tires on it. I owned a stock '99 Miata until a couple of years ago, and it would only JUST handle with a 914 that wasn't particularly tricked out. That 914s can still hold up under AX conditions against "modern" cars tends to bear this out.

Anyone who claims otherwise needs to provide credible evidence to back it up.

That said, AX is basically about the driver, tires, and weight (more or less in that order). Suspension really only enters into the equation on a bumpy course, and a lot of the difference from one setup to the other is down to driver preference, not absolute performance. The driver is so important, I've actually witnessed a Yugo doing better times that a Corvette on the same course, simply because the Yugo driver could exploit his car to the limit, where the Corvette driver was an effete wanker.




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olav   What qualities makes the 914 suspension   Oct 24 2005, 12:10 PM
SLITS   It's made from German Rustoleum?   Oct 24 2005, 12:12 PM
thesey914   Well I know that torsion bars are linier and coil...   Oct 24 2005, 12:24 PM
olav   I'm asking because some people claim that a st...   Oct 24 2005, 12:27 PM
914turboford   I believe the front strut system is essentially ge...   Oct 24 2005, 12:30 PM
horizontally-opposed   The same "top secrect" type of springs as the new ...   Oct 24 2005, 12:35 PM
lapuwali     Oct 24 2005, 12:39 PM
Thorshammer   Ah the suspension, a ten letter curse word. What ...   Oct 24 2005, 12:40 PM
nebreitling     Oct 24 2005, 12:49 PM
jhadler   Hmm, equally prepared Peon..er... Neon vs. 914, th...   Oct 24 2005, 01:48 PM
MattR   The MacPherson strut's major flaw is it loses,...   Oct 24 2005, 02:22 PM
Tobra   I would guess that an Integra GSR would crush a ne...   Oct 24 2005, 02:45 PM
jhadler     Oct 24 2005, 02:53 PM
brant   My opinion to the origianal question... it has som...   Oct 24 2005, 03:37 PM
groot   There's more to suspension design than camber ...   Oct 25 2005, 09:03 AM
Joe Ricard   I don't know bout dat crap. Neon vs Teener. S...   Oct 25 2005, 11:48 AM
jhadler   Hey Joe, Gotta look at the heavy hitters that wen...   Oct 25 2005, 11:50 AM
maf914   Macpherson struts are popular because they are com...   Oct 25 2005, 11:54 AM
J P Stein   OK, here's a bit of reality. Here is what a ...   Oct 25 2005, 12:35 PM
lapuwali     Oct 25 2005, 12:46 PM
mskala   I've done a couple of ax's with a miata gr...   Oct 25 2005, 01:47 PM
Joe Ricard   I see your point JP. Well sort of. Had I been a...   Oct 25 2005, 04:57 PM
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