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> alternative to six-ing it up..., turbo + waterboxer ???
dtravni
post Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM
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hello, 914-ers - i'm sure this is not a new topic - the problem is that i'm new to 914club. anyways, here goes.

my son & i bought a pretty nice 'california car' coupla years ago & we're debating pros/cons of pushing in a 911 6 - not exactly a glide (& not exactly cheap, either). it seems to me that a worthy alternative might be
a 2 (or 2.1) 4 cylinder watercooled Vanagan engine (waterboxer) -
all things considered, a better alternative. in fact, if the aircooled 914 4
could take the thermal loading, adapting a turbo in IT would be even better. i'm of the opinion that the performance would be comparable to a
2.7+ 6, and a whole lot more agreeable in the installation (transmission, motor mounts, cabling, etc). the plumbing (exhaust, intake, & cooling seem to be more straightforward too, compared to the adaptation required for the 6-er).

i'm sure that there are some out there that have considered/done this
installation - i'd be most interested in hearing your advice & tales of joy/woe.
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post Oct 25 2005, 09:14 PM
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Well,

There ya go, insulting Vanna's 2.1 engine. Vanna White, my Vanagon has a 2.1l waserboxer with 186,000 miles and it runs just fine thank you. Worst thing she did was have a head gasket leak.

Took off the heads, sandblasted the pits, used JB weld, and sanded them smooth. Added a coat of zinc chromate (like the factory) put the heads back on and off she went. Didn't even have to remove the engine.

2.1 is a real stump puller. Been times I forgot to rev it up and just popped the clutch. Van started moving and the engine didn't even slow down or grunt.

Only thing i don't like is the 30+ hoses. Seems like VW neglected to put cooling passages in the block and ran hoses around the engine instead of cast passageways.

Factory mounted the thermostat on the firewall (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

Stock is 110 hp and max RPM is 5200. Marco the Steam engine on Shop Talk Forums has a 300 hp turbo one........

Some people take the waserboxer block, saw off the cooling jacket, add beetle cylinders and heads and make oxyboxers out of them. Type IV style case and sump, beetle crank, heads, and cylinders fit. Add air cooling and go.

Ken
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dtravni   alternative to six-ing it up...   Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM
nebreitling   Welcome to the board! a /6 really is infinite...   Oct 24 2005, 07:17 PM
Crazyhippy   not alot of Experiance w/ the Vanagon motors, But ...   Oct 24 2005, 07:18 PM
goose2   Interesting idea for sure, but the watercooled Van...   Oct 24 2005, 07:42 PM
trekkor   Guess what I think you should do? h...   Oct 24 2005, 09:11 PM
SirAndy   <...   Oct 24 2005, 09:16 PM
ptravnic   The orig poster of this is my pops... I've be...   Oct 25 2005, 11:48 AM
goose2   In my opinion, a six or a big four are the simples...   Oct 25 2005, 12:03 PM
davep   ...   Oct 25 2005, 02:52 PM
Matt Monson   Well, Many a Vanagon owner has pulled that engine ...   Oct 25 2005, 03:46 PM
ptravnic   We both meet up in Buffalo to work on the car, mak...   Oct 25 2005, 06:43 PM
MecGen   Welcome to the Club X2 I think it hasn't been...   Oct 25 2005, 07:18 PM
kwales   Well, There ya go, insulting Vanna's 2.1 engi...   Oct 25 2005, 09:14 PM
dtravni   hello again - i really appreciate your replies. t...   Oct 26 2005, 09:49 PM
kwales   Yup, Wasserboxers can be turboed. Here is Marcot...   Oct 27 2005, 11:38 AM
dmenche914   My 86 Vanagon with a 2.1 wasserboxer and 175,000 m...   Oct 27 2005, 12:44 PM
Mueller   welcome..... one thing to keep in mind is the pur...   Oct 27 2005, 01:35 PM
ken914   First, I am a purist (sort of) with 914's. I h...   Oct 27 2005, 01:58 PM
davep   ...   Oct 27 2005, 02:27 PM
cnavarro   My .02 cents worth, if you're going to add h2o...   Oct 27 2005, 08:22 PM


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