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> alternative to six-ing it up..., turbo + waterboxer ???
dtravni
post Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM
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hello, 914-ers - i'm sure this is not a new topic - the problem is that i'm new to 914club. anyways, here goes.

my son & i bought a pretty nice 'california car' coupla years ago & we're debating pros/cons of pushing in a 911 6 - not exactly a glide (& not exactly cheap, either). it seems to me that a worthy alternative might be
a 2 (or 2.1) 4 cylinder watercooled Vanagan engine (waterboxer) -
all things considered, a better alternative. in fact, if the aircooled 914 4
could take the thermal loading, adapting a turbo in IT would be even better. i'm of the opinion that the performance would be comparable to a
2.7+ 6, and a whole lot more agreeable in the installation (transmission, motor mounts, cabling, etc). the plumbing (exhaust, intake, & cooling seem to be more straightforward too, compared to the adaptation required for the 6-er).

i'm sure that there are some out there that have considered/done this
installation - i'd be most interested in hearing your advice & tales of joy/woe.
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post Oct 27 2005, 01:58 PM
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First, I am a purist (sort of) with 914's. I have a '70 factory 914/6 with 3.2 and wouldn't have it any other way.

On the other hand, if you are going to run water lines to a radiator I don't know why anyone would do anything other than an american V8. You can get a new crate motor for $1300 with a 50,000 mile warrantee! Block off 1st in the 901 transmission and it will run like hell all day long. The conversion has been done so many times that it is realitively straight forward, relatively cheap and there are lots of people to ask for advice. With the right aluminum V8 you can get close to if not below the weight of a factory /6.

Recap: straight forward, cost effective, LOTS of power, proven technique, plenty of people to ask for help/advice.

Seems like the obvious choice to me.

Just my 2 cents. What ever you do, have fun and be proud of it!
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dtravni   alternative to six-ing it up...   Oct 24 2005, 06:42 PM
nebreitling   Welcome to the board! a /6 really is infinite...   Oct 24 2005, 07:17 PM
Crazyhippy   not alot of Experiance w/ the Vanagon motors, But ...   Oct 24 2005, 07:18 PM
goose2   Interesting idea for sure, but the watercooled Van...   Oct 24 2005, 07:42 PM
trekkor   Guess what I think you should do? h...   Oct 24 2005, 09:11 PM
SirAndy   <...   Oct 24 2005, 09:16 PM
ptravnic   The orig poster of this is my pops... I've be...   Oct 25 2005, 11:48 AM
goose2   In my opinion, a six or a big four are the simples...   Oct 25 2005, 12:03 PM
davep   ...   Oct 25 2005, 02:52 PM
Matt Monson   Well, Many a Vanagon owner has pulled that engine ...   Oct 25 2005, 03:46 PM
ptravnic   We both meet up in Buffalo to work on the car, mak...   Oct 25 2005, 06:43 PM
MecGen   Welcome to the Club X2 I think it hasn't been...   Oct 25 2005, 07:18 PM
kwales   Well, There ya go, insulting Vanna's 2.1 engi...   Oct 25 2005, 09:14 PM
dtravni   hello again - i really appreciate your replies. t...   Oct 26 2005, 09:49 PM
kwales   Yup, Wasserboxers can be turboed. Here is Marcot...   Oct 27 2005, 11:38 AM
dmenche914   My 86 Vanagon with a 2.1 wasserboxer and 175,000 m...   Oct 27 2005, 12:44 PM
Mueller   welcome..... one thing to keep in mind is the pur...   Oct 27 2005, 01:35 PM
ken914   First, I am a purist (sort of) with 914's. I h...   Oct 27 2005, 01:58 PM
davep   ...   Oct 27 2005, 02:27 PM
cnavarro   My .02 cents worth, if you're going to add h2o...   Oct 27 2005, 08:22 PM


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