Price of Jake's 2270cc, With all bells & whilses |
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Price of Jake's 2270cc, With all bells & whilses |
Rog914 |
Nov 26 2005, 09:53 PM
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914 Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Reisterstown,Md Member No.: 93 |
Flat labor rate $4,000
New parts $7,500 Crating charge $ 150 Core charge Total estimated cost $11,650 Inclusive Opions: Dyno tuning, (In lieu of warranty) $350 Cryogenic enhancement (partial) $262 Standard blueprinting service $550 Severe duty valve train $450 Extensive Dyno Testing $500 Composite lifters (if available) $600 Mallory Unilite Distributor $329 Optional items, (not included in "Total estimated cost") above: $400 Crygenic treatment upgrade (full engine treatment) $275 Ion Nitrided crankshaft $125 Lightened flywheel $2,800 Upgrade to programmable EFI $810 Performance engine coatings package (thermal barrier, friction reduction & heat dispersants) $2,000 LN Engineering Nickies cylinders (if available) $1,250 914 DTM upgrade $145 Full flow oiling system upgrades $92 6 puck performance cluch disc Total Option price: $7,897 Total price of engine & all options: $19,547 (not including exhaust & shipping) This would have been heck of a 2270cc engine with everything. I wish I could of afforded it. Yes, I'm the last to have backed out of a Raby engine. I'm not here to bash Jake, just tell "the other side of the story" Started in 1-5-05 with a phone call from Jake to talk what I wanted in an engine. Told him I wanted a 2270cc and what would cost to have one with all the bells & whilses. With Nickies, all performance coatings. He gives me a "rough" estimate of $11,000. 1-6-05 I sent my $200 deposit for an engine build. He calls every now & then, and chat for awhile. Calls 2 month ago, tells me looked over the engine and everything looked good except for the heads cracked but should be salvageable and will cost a little more to repair them. Nothing more was said about money until he calls to say my spot is getting ready and E-mailed the proposal. The whole time I'm thinking about $11,000. When I see my all "bells & whisles" engine to be $19,547. Sorry but that's way off even for a "rough" estimate. I just can't afford that at this time. Jake builds super engines and has done alot for the 914 community. I just wish he would be more truthful with his estimates. Even on this board he stated "Anywhere from 7K clear to 14.5K could be end the end result." When $19,547 is the end result as his propsal states above. As far as I'm concerned I should of had the propsal in January when I put my deposit down, not at the last minute when to find out the estimate nearly doubled. Now that's the rest of the story. Ralph |
TJB/914 |
Nov 27 2005, 07:50 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,358 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You guys crack me up with popcorn (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif)
Looks to me like the only thing wrong is poor communications at the time of deposit/agreement. As a businessman you need to send a detailed quote and review costs before placing the order (standard business practice). I feel bad for Ralph having budgeted the $11K and thinking that was it. Ralph should have asked for a detailed quote and Jake should have communicated a finished price. Both parites should have gone over each detail of the engine build. They both share 50% blame. These things happen in business dealings. Everyone learned a lesson. Life goes on. My reaction to Jakes engine breakdown is interesting. My first thought is the flat labor rate. He works cheap if you cost his labor rate at $100 per hr. (40) labor hours is very good. All the other numbers look good. I see nothing wrong with Jakes breakdown, custom motors are expensive no matter what brand. Now everyone knows how to figure their budget or decide what type of engine to use. This should help Jakes future business. You step up or go another direction. Tom |