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> Oil cooler..........round two, AKA fun with foam!
East coaster
post Feb 17 2006, 07:56 PM
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So after a little brainstorming on an oil cooler layout, I figured I better actually do it.

Started out by figuring out the mounting of the cooler itself. It's a very large (4 x 24 fin area) and I think a good fit for a 3.6 since it doesn't have an engine mounted cooler. I started by cutting sections out of the front support tray for clearance and then re-boxing the area to keep the shelf rigid and serve as a mounting point for the front of the cooler.

Here's a pic of the cut outs...........


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post Feb 25 2006, 10:07 AM
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Since I deal with heat exchange, air and fluid flow as part of my job, I thought I'd add just a little bit here.
Heat exchangers depend on velocity of the air as much as volume to do the job efficiently. A car at speed with the HX fully exposed will see sufficient velocity. At rest there, obviously, is no velocity. As you restrict the inlet, both volume and velocity decrease. Similarly, on the outlet side any restrictions will reduce volume and velocity. Pressure differences will also have a significant effect on both.
One way of designing a system is to start by measuring the cross-sectional area of the heat exchanger. By rights you should consider only the open area of the rad, that area through which the air actually flows, and of course that means subtracting the area of the tubes. So, if you have a 4" x 20" rad for a total area of 80 sq inches you may find the open area to be 40 to 50 sq inches. Then you can plan the inlet area to be at least this size, and slightly larger if there are lots of sharp edges as opposed to a nicely contoured duct. Generally the inlet is very short and unrestricted. On the outlet side of the rad, paths tend to be a little longer and may not be straight, thus the cross-sectional area of the outlet is generally larger than the inlet. The rule of thumb however is to try to keep the duct cross-section constant even while it is changing shape. The idea is to try to keep the velocity constant. Sharp bends should be avoided.
Placing booster fans in the system can be a real problem. When the car is at rest, and there is no other airflow, then they become a necessity. At speed they are usually a restriction. In this particular design I'd place the two fans in front of the rad and between the ducts in the front; you have three duct opennings, and two spaces between the duct opennings. By placing the fans out of the direct incoming airflow you reduce the restriction to airflow at speed, yet at rest the fans will easily draw air from the opennings on either side of it. I'd place the fans directly on the rad itself. My choice of fans for this would be a pair of 120mm x 38mm high speed units with ball bearings. I have some Panasonic models of this type.

Similar to the airflow design, the oil lines and other parts should be matched. It would be useless, almost, to have -16 lines and a -8 openning into the rad or into the thermostat. I too would place the thermostat close to the engine. I might even have two thermostats, one at the engine and the other at the rad. If the rad does not have a pressure relief valve in it, or with it, then the second thermostat would help. This would stage the cooling, and allow faster engine warmup. It may also prevent over-cooling of the oil on cool days. My friend with the GT always warmed the car up to ensure the hot oil was flowing through the rad before taking the car onto the track. Too many of his friends blew their rads halfway around on the first lap because they did not warm things up properly. He suggests synthetic oil to reduce the problems.

Your system sure is elegant, and that is a good sign. Perhaps this thread should be in the Classics section soon.
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East coaster   Oil cooler..........round two   Feb 17 2006, 07:56 PM
East coaster   other side....   Feb 17 2006, 07:57 PM
East coaster   I'm using two isolator mounts from these areas...   Feb 17 2006, 08:00 PM
East coaster   Used a piece of billet aluminum and made a mountin...   Feb 17 2006, 08:03 PM
East coaster   This is what it looks like fit up.....   Feb 17 2006, 08:04 PM
East coaster   Once the mounting was squared away, it's on to...   Feb 17 2006, 08:06 PM
East coaster   20 minutes with a hacksaw blade and some 36 grit, ...   Feb 17 2006, 08:07 PM
East coaster   I had to hot glue an additional chunk to this one ...   Feb 17 2006, 08:10 PM
Eric_Shea   Slick!   Feb 17 2006, 08:10 PM
East coaster   All shaping/fitting done and ready for disassembly...   Feb 17 2006, 08:11 PM
East coaster   One mo'   Feb 17 2006, 08:12 PM
Eric_Shea   Plans to lay a false floor on there?   Feb 17 2006, 08:13 PM
East coaster   You guys bored of the pics yet? The foam pieces a...   Feb 17 2006, 08:15 PM
East coaster   Yeah.....I want to be able to put the factory fals...   Feb 17 2006, 08:17 PM
Eric_Shea   Question/Concern: With a GT shroud they made the ...   Feb 17 2006, 08:17 PM
GTPatrick   Food for thought . http://www...   Feb 17 2006, 08:23 PM
East coaster   I have about 35 % larger outlet than inlet. I woul...   Feb 17 2006, 08:25 PM
Dave_Darling     Feb 17 2006, 10:10 PM
East coaster   Yeah, nothing but "genuine styrofoam" for me, no e...   Feb 17 2006, 10:11 PM
East coaster   Yeah, I'm going with a space saver. I'm no...   Feb 17 2006, 10:16 PM
Aaron Cox   copier! im cutting mine around the space saver...   Feb 17 2006, 10:16 PM
East coaster   Aaron, I probably could've squeezed a little (...   Feb 17 2006, 10:25 PM
trekkor   I like what you have done. Really nice concept. ...   Feb 17 2006, 10:34 PM
VegasRacer   Very nice. http://www.914wor...   Feb 17 2006, 11:37 PM
jim_hoyland   Nice !! Keep the pictures coming.   Feb 18 2006, 07:37 AM
seanery   that's very clean...if it turns out to be effe...   Feb 18 2006, 07:51 AM
ArtechnikA   you're using a front-mounted -12 thermostat on...   Feb 18 2006, 07:52 AM
East coaster   Front mounted -12 cooler/thermo, yes, that was the...   Feb 18 2006, 08:44 AM
East coaster   OK, it was a day of sniffin' fumes! Layed...   Feb 18 2006, 09:08 PM
Aaron Cox   3.6 likes -16/-20   Feb 18 2006, 09:09 PM
East coaster   Just used a couple of drywall screws into the foam...   Feb 18 2006, 09:10 PM
East coaster   Did the layup, let it cure, and then shredded the ...   Feb 18 2006, 09:12 PM
East coaster   Here's the plenum after a quickie scrape and t...   Feb 18 2006, 09:13 PM
East coaster   nuther.......   Feb 18 2006, 09:14 PM
East coaster   test fitting......   Feb 18 2006, 09:15 PM
East coaster   kjhgkjhgk   Feb 18 2006, 09:16 PM
East coaster   Here's tomorrow's project. It's the fr...   Feb 18 2006, 09:18 PM
J P Stein   Good job. You've added to my general knowledge...   Feb 18 2006, 09:18 PM
jim_hoyland   How many layers of glass did you use ? Any special...   Feb 18 2006, 10:10 PM
jonwatts   ...   Feb 19 2006, 08:46 AM
J P Stein   Rich: Generally, you and I are are in agreement ab...   Feb 19 2006, 09:04 AM
drew365   <...   Feb 19 2006, 10:33 AM
East coaster   As far as thermostat placement, there seems to be ...   Feb 19 2006, 11:54 AM
Eric_Shea   Begin Parrot: Squawwwwk Porsche 911 Performance ...   Feb 19 2006, 01:02 PM
Aaron Cox  
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db9146   East Coaster, I like it...a lot. Great job. Keep ...   Feb 19 2006, 01:39 PM
J P Stein   Anderson says quite a lot. He says the 964/993 oi...   Feb 19 2006, 07:07 PM
East coaster   Ok..........more fumes, more itchy scratchy, but a...   Feb 19 2006, 08:23 PM
East coaster   mnbvmnbv   Feb 19 2006, 08:24 PM
East coaster   Here's the first test fit. I does need a littl...   Feb 19 2006, 08:27 PM
East coaster   Here's looking into the business end of the co...   Feb 19 2006, 08:28 PM
ArtechnikA  
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East coaster   while we're on a oil line kick, does anyone ha...   Feb 19 2006, 08:38 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Feb 19 2006, 08:45 PM
trekkor   I don't beat on my car until it's hot, so ...   Feb 19 2006, 09:28 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Feb 19 2006, 09:47 PM
McMark   I'm going -12 on mine, and last I heard SirAnd...   Feb 19 2006, 09:51 PM
Eric_Shea   JD... you're one scary dude! http://www.914wo...   Feb 21 2006, 11:13 AM
Headrage   You're gonna make more of these to sell right?   Feb 21 2006, 11:21 AM
mrdezyne     Feb 21 2006, 11:34 AM
URY914   Wrapping the plug with something does help when it...   Feb 21 2006, 11:44 AM
spunone   Line size ?? if the pump holes are 3/8 inch won...   Feb 21 2006, 11:52 AM
Dr Evil   Just freaking cool! I know how to FG, but I ne...   Feb 21 2006, 12:20 PM
East coaster   I layed up the glass right over the foam. I did a ...   Feb 21 2006, 12:22 PM
maf914     Feb 21 2006, 12:23 PM
tdgray   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Feb 21 2006, 12:25 PM
fiid   The glasswork looks awesome!! Great job. ...   Feb 21 2006, 01:50 PM
Dr Evil   I have not heard that you shouldn't use braded...   Feb 21 2006, 02:58 PM
ArtechnikA     Feb 22 2006, 06:43 AM
Dr. Roger   how on earth did i miss this thread??? very clas...   Feb 24 2006, 07:40 PM
trekkor   <...   Feb 24 2006, 11:22 PM
East coaster   Roger, Fiberglass would have no problem dealing wi...   Feb 25 2006, 07:26 AM
davep   Since I deal with heat exchange, air and fluid flo...   Feb 25 2006, 10:07 AM


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