Understeer?, Woah... tha's wierd... Options

[Brando]

So, I've been driving the 914 alot more lately (side story to that). And I've noticed since my last alignment that the car seems to have a bit of understeer*

* To clarify, am I correct in saying under-steer is when you turn the steering wheel and the car does not immediately turn (plows a bit)?

So, here's what I got:

Boges all around.
23mm Adjustable bar up front.
Stock rear bar.
Stock tortion bars up front.
120lb springs in back.
Rear ride hieght is 5½" from ground to rockers.
Front ride height is 4½" from ground to rockers.

I do not have money to throw at a solution. I very much would like to keep the rear bar as it does keep the car very stable in wide wide WIDE turns that I like to take very fast. I guess I'm asking, how should I adjust this? Stiffen the front bar? Run it "softer"? Level the car out front and rear? I do not have adjustable perches in the back (consider it stock hardware). New shocks are not an option. When I was running with the front bar alone, I noticed the front of car would stay flat in very tight turns but would plow a little bit -- give it enough gas and it would straighten the ass-end out in the direction I want, when I added the rear bar it made the whole car stay level in turns, but the understeer* remained, was a bit more noticeable. Any suggestions, please fire away.

Thanks. I know I'm crazy, but I can't spare any pennies on my cars for some time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

[SirAndy]

QUOTE (Brando @ Mar 30 2006, 02:22 AM)

Where can I get progressive springs that fit stock perches?

i have a set of 180lbs progressives you can have ...

also, keep in mind that there is NO perfect setup for both, the big track (think high speed corners and long sweepers) and Autocross (think tight, 2nd gear corners) ...

if you find a setup that will *feel* ok for both, you're giving up time on both.
guys that are serious about this have different suspension setups for TT and AX. anything else will always be a compromise.

generally, it's better to have the car stable and neutral at high speeds and live with a bit of understeer at tight low speed corners.
if you have really good turn-in at low speeds, your rear end will tend to come lose on high speed sweepers, which might not be a gud idea ...

interesting topic, isn't it?
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Andy