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914fan
post Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
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How do a 200hp 6 and a 200hp 4 drive compared to eachother. I know there are several ways to get 200hp out or either. I am interested in a daily driver 200hp 6 or 4. Does anybody have any dyno charts of these? Is the 6 more peaky? is the 4 more torquE? Type IV and Porsche 6 please.


I am not trying to start a flame war. I am just looking for information cause I found an empty spot in my brain, and I need to fill it before something else goes in there.
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post Nov 3 2006, 02:24 PM
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There is no altered cooling system needed, no ALTERED MOUNTS, NO GRINDING, NO WELDING or any of the things that would be considered "conversion"....



I think Grant was referring to the need for aftermarket intake, exhaust, dizzy, fuel delivery and additional cooling if you want it to last *ONE* 30 minute DE session in the summer.

If it doesn't plug'n'play, it's a conversion in my mind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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post Nov 3 2006, 03:09 PM
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There is no altered cooling system needed, no ALTERED MOUNTS, NO GRINDING, NO WELDING or any of the things that would be considered "conversion"....



I think Grant was referring to the need for aftermarket intake, exhaust, dizzy, fuel delivery and additional cooling if you want it to last *ONE* 30 minute DE session in the summer.

If it doesn't plug'n'play, it's a conversion in my mind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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Then you are confused..

Its not a conversion and YOU DO NOT NEED BETTER ENGINE COOLING THAN STOCK for todays 200 HP/4... OIL COOLING is not engine cooling, most STOCK -4 engines need an external oil cooler for a D/E event in the middle of the summer..

None of that is considered a conversion, they are UPDATES...

You guys that have never done this don't understand the fact that one of these engines can be installed in one weekend by ONE PERSON including the oil system... I have done it many times by myself..

The factory pressure plate will hold 200HP, all you need is a 85 dollar clutch disc- thats not a conversion unless you weld the pressure plate on!

The Mallory unilite drops in and installs in 1/2 hours, is that a conversion- nope, nit unless you are totally lost and have no clue as to what a 13mm wrench looks like..


Its very obvious that you guys are totally lost on the subject of what it really takes to install one of these engines, if you call the reinstall of an engine thats only had its displacement increased a "concversion" you need to do some more research..

So I guess if you have a 3.0 six and you pull it out and make it a 3.2 its a "conversion"?? By your standards it is..

Bullshit.

Anyone who wants to hear a testimonial from a 914 club member that has a 202 HP 2316 in his 914 can download this radio show from my archives
4th Dimension Radio

To me a six cylinder engine just means it has two more rod bearings to wear, 4 more rod bolts to break and 4 more valves to drop.. More parts = more chances for mechanical failure... Its all about doing more with LESS!

Oh yeah, where is that six cylinder that doubles its HP with 15% displacement gain... better yet where is the 2.4L six that can top this power on PUMP GAS N/A
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914fan   6 vs 4   Oct 31 2006, 11:20 AM
porschecb   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popco...   Oct 31 2006, 11:26 AM
Racer Chris   Displacement makes a big difference. A 2 liter pr...   Oct 31 2006, 11:36 AM
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grantsfo   Lets be real T4 fans. A 200 HP T4 is a handfull a...   Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, There you go again.. Getting out of line an...   Nov 2 2006, 10:00 PM
trekkor   It's not about sides. He said if he had ...   Nov 2 2006, 10:13 PM
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trekkor   There are some cool deals on E-bay right now. Lik...   Nov 3 2006, 12:15 AM
iamchappy   I like the six's better.. This ones going in m...   Nov 3 2006, 07:54 AM
Bleyseng   Comparing a used six cost to a rebuilt custom four...   Nov 3 2006, 09:04 AM
grantsfo  
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trekkor   Jake, that sounds like fun. I seriously doubt anyo...   Nov 3 2006, 11:55 AM
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BMXerror   :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:...   Nov 3 2006, 12:05 PM
trekkor   :popcorn:   Nov 3 2006, 12:23 PM
Joe Ricard   Does it have to be the same car? how about similar...   Nov 3 2006, 12:26 PM
iamchappy   The topic of this thread is 6vs4 right. I liked t...   Nov 3 2006, 12:42 PM
McMark   Trekkor has a car with four cylinder mounts still ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:44 PM
Matt Romanowski   Joe, The car should be the same. If the car is up...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
DNHunt   Seems like you caught me up on something similar. ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:45 PM
trekkor   My car would make a nice/perfect experiment platfo...   Nov 3 2006, 12:58 PM
anthony   The only issue I have with this debate is the misi...   Nov 3 2006, 01:14 PM
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iamchappy   Again I would like to bring back to everyones atte...   Nov 3 2006, 01:47 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, WTF are you referring to the TIV at larger ...   Nov 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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