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> Superlite 15x7 25+ offset 4 lug 4x130 wheels, for those of you looking for something different
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post Mar 26 2007, 07:32 PM
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I had half a dozen titles for this thread in my head...

It's finally time to mount the Superlite wheels I bought in June 06. Mike Z was given a second chance offer from ebay when the auction didn't make reserve. He offered them up and I grabbed it. I bought them significantly cheaper than Pack Racing currently offers them for on their website. So it was worth it. Here's the original thread There were many questions (and even a little mis-information) in that thread. I'll answer quite a few here since I now have the wheels have tires mounted on them and I'm about to use them.

BTW - 914world member Nick Mironov has a thread about his Superlite wheels. Nick's superlite wheel thread . Nick, you want to read this thread and possibly talk to Pack Racing about a set of inserts with a proper conical lug bolt/nut seat.


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let me interject a little. offset is a pretty useless number, as it varies by width....

Backspacing is constant. backspacing is from the inner lip of the wheel to the mounting face. on a 914, you want between 112-120mm backspacing.
every fuch wheel has almost the same backspacing even though the width changes. pretty cool.

so if you know the max back spacing you can run on your car (before wheel hits inner fender well) You can then pick a custom wheel to fit your car in ANY width you would like.

just easier to calculate IMO,


those look so sick on your car gint!
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post Mar 26 2007, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 26 2007, 07:50 PM) *

let me interject a little. offset is a pretty useless number, as it varies by width....

Backspacing is constant. backspacing is from the inner lip of the wheel to the mounting face. on a 914, you want between 112-120mm backspacing.
every fuch wheel has almost the same backspacing even though the width changes. pretty cool.

so if you know the max back spacing you can run on your car (before wheel hits inner fender well) You can then pick a custom wheel to fit your car in ANY width you would like.

just easier to calculate IMO,


those look so sick on your car gint!

Actually, I disagree. Offset in it's simplest form is the distance from the wheel's centerline to the hub mating surface regardless of the wheel's width. And I like to have all of the numbers. I have no issue with calculating the offset in order to know what I'm dealing with. But that's just me...
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Factory 5.5" 4x130 Fuchs wheel
  • Overall wheel width - 6.250"
  • Wheel width (between the inner beads) 5.5"
  • Backspace 4.6875"
  • Offset 1.5625"+ (39.6mm)
Performance Superlite 15x7 4x130 wheel
  • Overall width 8"
  • Wheel width (between the inner beads) 7"
  • Backspace 5"
  • Offset 1"+ (25.4mm)
Edit:
I cheesed the Fuchs measurements. They have been corrected 3/28/07. Factory 4 lug (4x130 bolt pattern) Fuchs wheel has an positive offset of 39.6mm.


Good information about wheel backspace and offset from Yokohama's web site


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High Performance Wheels
The following are various high performance wheel measurements that play an important role in determining tire and wheel fitment:

Wheel Backspace
This is the distance from the back edge of the wheel to the hub mounting surface. To determine the wheel backspace:

1. Position the wheel face down.
2. Lay a straight-edge across the back of the wheel. Measure the distance from the straight-edge to the wheel's hub mounting surface.

Wheel Offset
The wheel's offset is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset of a wheel can be one of three settings:

* Zero offset: The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.
* Positive offset: The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front-wheel drive cars.
* Negative offset: The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheel's centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically negative offset. Offset can be calculated by positioning the wheel on a flat surface and measuring its overall width and backspace as shown below. Divide the overall width by two, then subtract this result from the backspace value.


Offset = Backspace - (Rim Width รท 2)





Here's a drawing from Fikse that I especially like.


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Gint   Superlite 15x7 25+ offset 4 lug 4x130 wheels   Mar 26 2007, 07:32 PM
Gint   I thought I was getting 2 wheels with 25mm+ offset...   Mar 26 2007, 08:42 PM
Aaron Cox   let me interject a little. offset is a pretty usel...   Mar 26 2007, 08:50 PM
Gint   let me interject a little. offset is a pretty use...   Mar 26 2007, 08:58 PM
Gint   Now, this is a piece of info that anyone wishing t...   Mar 26 2007, 08:52 PM
nebreitling   Tires... I've now gone from running the fatt...   Mar 26 2007, 10:09 PM
Gint   Hoosiers are 8.7" across! There's on...   Mar 26 2007, 10:11 PM
Joe Ricard   Hmm My Hoosiers are 11" across. with a tre...   Mar 27 2007, 02:10 PM
Tobra   More tires in 195-55-15 than you would think; nice...   Mar 27 2007, 09:22 PM
Borderline   How much do these "superlite" wheels wei...   Mar 27 2007, 11:40 PM
Gint   How much do these "superlite" wheels wei...   Mar 28 2007, 08:43 AM
sean_v8_914   vcb   Mar 28 2007, 01:18 AM
sk8kat1   I really like those!! so what is the prop...   Mar 28 2007, 11:24 AM
Gint   Mine are 15x7 25mm+ offset. IMHO, In a 15...   Mar 28 2007, 11:39 AM
sk8kat1   Mine are 15x7 25mm+ offset. IMHO, In a 15...   Mar 28 2007, 11:57 AM
Aaron Cox   [quote name='Gint' post='880887' date='Mar 28 200...   Mar 28 2007, 12:30 PM
Gint   ...so those 15" opions I would be able to d...   Mar 28 2007, 12:36 PM
Aaron Cox   [quote name='Aaron Cox' post='880909' date='Mar 2...   Mar 28 2007, 12:40 PM
cuca914   Mine are 15x7 25mm+ offset. IMHO, In a 15...   May 10 2007, 07:07 PM
Gint   [quote name='Gint' post='880887' date='Mar 28 200...   May 13 2007, 03:08 AM
sean_v8_914   good info about backspacing and offset here   Mar 28 2007, 11:53 AM
Gint   good info about backspacing and offset here Tha...   Mar 28 2007, 10:48 PM
sk8kat1   arron if you are trying to make me do my " ho...   Mar 28 2007, 12:50 PM
Aaron Cox   not what i meant. i believe all the info was is in...   Mar 28 2007, 12:53 PM
sk8kat1   not what i meant. i believe all the info was is i...   Mar 28 2007, 01:33 PM
nein14   here are my 15 x 8 on yoko advanta r 032 soft comp...   Mar 28 2007, 06:41 PM
Aaron Cox   i got the same ADVAN A032R's in harder compoun...   Mar 28 2007, 06:46 PM
nein14   I actually work with Barry the owner of Pack Racin...   Mar 29 2007, 08:07 AM
Gint   I actually work with Barry the owner of Pack Raci...   Mar 29 2007, 08:28 AM
Gint   I talked with Terry from Pack Racing Friday. Even...   Apr 2 2007, 02:48 PM
Gint   I'm finally getting around to installing these...   Apr 20 2007, 01:00 PM
Gint   Dammit I can't win! So I took the wheels/...   Apr 20 2007, 06:11 PM
ChrisNPDrider   :( Those are press in inserts to convert mag/flat...   Apr 20 2007, 06:25 PM
Gint   Yes. Pack Racing normally installs these inserts...   Apr 20 2007, 06:31 PM
73Phoenix20   Interesting info... Does anyone know if Mini Lite ...   Apr 20 2007, 07:49 PM
jim_hoyland   Gint, Thanks for the lesson; Good Stuff !   Apr 20 2007, 09:32 PM
Gint   It's been a long road... My $360 deal on...   May 6 2007, 09:38 PM
TROJANMAN   :clap: That car looks faster already........... ...   May 7 2007, 12:23 AM
Gint   :clap: That car looks faster already........... ...   May 7 2007, 05:13 PM
Ferg   Those look fantastic! :headbanger: Ferg   May 7 2007, 09:29 AM
boxstr   The best classic look in an aftermarket wheel. CCL...   May 7 2007, 10:01 AM
majkos   G-man,I'm behind you! :headbanger: I...   May 10 2007, 09:10 PM
JPB   Them there are perdy. :beer1:   May 13 2007, 07:05 AM
orcadigital   Looks good Gint! My wheels still rock, too ba...   May 13 2007, 12:12 PM
sixnotfour   Gint, some other 15inch wheels weights 5 lug Ma...   Jan 2 2013, 12:30 PM
Gint   Cool. Good data. You should list what kind of wh...   Jan 2 2013, 12:36 PM
sixnotfour   Done   Jan 2 2013, 12:40 PM
Gint   Thanks Jeff! Formatted a tad.   Jan 2 2013, 06:25 PM
last337   I am actually looking at putting the bfg g-force s...   Jan 2 2013, 06:56 PM
Gint   They should be fine on a stock alloy wheel.   Jan 2 2013, 09:24 PM
sixnotfour   Found these :D   Jan 29 2013, 08:27 PM
Gint   Those... are... awesome!!! Thanks...   Jan 30 2013, 06:56 PM
BigFour1973   awakening an old thread. If someone could tell me ...   Oct 19 2016, 05:16 PM
Kansas 914   So you are going 7" and 8" and keeping i...   Oct 20 2016, 07:57 AM
BigFour1973   So you are going 7" and 8" and keeping ...   Oct 20 2016, 12:45 PM
Kansas 914   Yes, that's the plan. Do you recall the offs...   Oct 20 2016, 03:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   The wheels are just sitting in the garage - let m...   Oct 20 2016, 03:21 PM
Kansas 914   The wheels are just sitting in the garage - let ...   Oct 20 2016, 06:52 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have Hankook Ventus 2 tires on the car now. Goo...   Oct 20 2016, 08:43 PM
Kansas 914   How were the BFGs on a 914? That's what I am...   Oct 21 2016, 07:16 AM
BigFour1973   Yes, that's the plan. Do you recall the off...   Oct 20 2016, 04:04 PM
Kansas 914   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2413822' date='Oct...   Oct 20 2016, 06:55 PM
BigFour1973   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2413822' date='Oc...   Oct 20 2016, 07:02 PM
horizontally-opposed   Ah, so the car was wearing those tires when you go...   Oct 21 2016, 08:30 PM
Gint   Ah, so the car was wearing those tires when you g...   Sep 25 2020, 10:05 PM
Eric_Shea   Ah, so the car was wearing those tires when you g...   Oct 26 2020, 01:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ Super cool, Gint! Center caps are one of th...   Sep 25 2020, 11:04 PM
Gint   Jeff gets all the credit. He made those remotely ...   Sep 26 2020, 07:52 AM


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