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> i have to pull the engine, locked up
rhodyguy
post May 7 2007, 03:05 PM
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the engine would turn (by hand) prior to the install. initially it turned fine when trying to start it. never did light off. made a wierd noise or 2, now, it won't turn at all. full charge on bat. starter just clicks. plugs out, in gear, pass side tire chocked, i can not turn the engine with the dr side tire at all. like it's hitting something. i have 0 answers or ideas. just about at the end and ready to take a huge loss on everything. debating whether to pull the engine, and just roll the car out and tarp it. words can not express....

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The problem probably isn't the starter section of the starter. it is probably the solenoid section that sits atop the starter.

Me thinks the gears are getting stuck together when you first hit the starter.

I bet ya if you bolt up the starter right now. And give it NO JUICE. (12VDC) the engine will turn fine. But as soon as you hit the starter once with juice. The gears are getting stuck together. And the engine binds.

Please understand that I am just guessing here. But thats what it looks like to me.

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rhodyguy   i have to pull the engine   May 7 2007, 03:05 PM
Justinp71   You could have dropped a valve seat, that happened...   May 7 2007, 03:12 PM
bd1308   yeah i have had a valve pop off and get lodged in ...   May 7 2007, 03:17 PM
rhodyguy   i have not started this engine. there was no metal...   May 7 2007, 03:23 PM
SLITS   Will the engine turn backwards from the point of l...   May 7 2007, 03:26 PM
rhodyguy   ill go check.   May 7 2007, 03:31 PM
rhodyguy   no i can't. tried to turn it with the dr side ...   May 7 2007, 03:37 PM
Jake Raby   sounds like something is jammed in the flywheel/ c...   May 7 2007, 03:39 PM
rhodyguy   puttin' on the coveralls and getting started. ...   May 7 2007, 03:43 PM
Joe Ricard   Just drop the transaxle off and see if you can tur...   May 7 2007, 03:44 PM
SLITS   I'd do a quick check on the starter to see if ...   May 7 2007, 03:48 PM
So.Cal.914   I'd do a quick check on the starter to see if...   May 7 2007, 04:07 PM
rhodyguy   by check, you mean just remove the starter first? ...   May 7 2007, 03:50 PM
Twystd1   yes   May 7 2007, 04:06 PM
rhodyguy   starter out. no sign of hammering on the starter g...   May 7 2007, 04:18 PM
rhodyguy   btw. the engine does rotate with the starter remov...   May 7 2007, 04:45 PM
So.Cal.914   btw. the engine does rotate with the starter remo...   May 7 2007, 09:35 PM
rhodyguy   HA! <_< while rotating the engine i note...   May 7 2007, 05:04 PM
SLITS   Now, the fact that it does rotate is REALLY GOOD N...   May 7 2007, 05:12 PM
rhodyguy   there is a tight .018" distance from the outs...   May 7 2007, 05:30 PM
John   You are going to have to at least pull the trans o...   May 7 2007, 05:43 PM
rhodyguy   th whole package is coming out john.   May 7 2007, 06:05 PM
rhodyguy   is the fw being this close to the bell housing on ...   May 7 2007, 07:49 PM
davep   I can't see anything bad there.   May 7 2007, 07:59 PM
So.Cal.914   Looks right to me also. Did you test the starter?   May 7 2007, 08:18 PM
Aaron Cox   check this one out..... did you put a NEW oil pum...   May 7 2007, 08:20 PM
rhodyguy   <_< 215 vs 210? disc that came out is identi...   May 7 2007, 08:49 PM
Demick   Please tell me you didn't use this pressure pl...   May 7 2007, 08:58 PM
SLITS   Kevin ..... I thought maybe you changed the flywhe...   May 7 2007, 09:04 PM
So.Cal.914   Nope, I think your right Ron. Looks bad to me also...   May 7 2007, 09:28 PM
John   So does the engine turn freely with the trans off?   May 7 2007, 09:31 PM
rhodyguy   that fw is not the on that came with the engine. i...   May 7 2007, 10:08 PM
John   what about a pic of the starter?   May 7 2007, 10:18 PM
rhodyguy   i put this starter in during the wcc04' in the...   May 7 2007, 11:42 PM
John   Have you found any shiny spots where it was rubbin...   May 8 2007, 12:00 AM
rhodyguy   i'm being a bit unclear. so i'll back trac...   May 8 2007, 12:08 AM
So.Cal.914   I know that I sound like a broken record but have ...   May 8 2007, 12:17 AM
Twystd1   Starter gear is skipping against the top of the FW...   May 8 2007, 01:08 AM
rhodyguy   i don't know anyone with a loose, known good s...   May 8 2007, 09:23 AM
Root_Werks   i don't know anyone with a loose, known good ...   May 8 2007, 10:17 AM
So.Cal.914   i don't know anyone with a loose, known good ...   May 8 2007, 10:30 AM
davep   I don't like the look of the flywheel to crank...   May 8 2007, 09:52 AM
rhodyguy   new pivot bushing, clip, t.o. bearing were install...   May 8 2007, 10:16 AM
rhodyguy   i'll push the 914 to marysville and we'll ...   May 8 2007, 10:29 AM
echocanyons   :agree: Test the starter while out of the car....   May 8 2007, 11:02 AM
rhodyguy   i took this before the old engine pull. i'll ...   May 8 2007, 11:13 AM
Bartlett 914   i took this before the old engine pull. i'll...   May 8 2007, 11:23 AM
rhodyguy   got off the phone w/dan root. he's going to ma...   May 8 2007, 11:24 AM
Root_Werks   got off the phone w/dan root. he's going to m...   May 9 2007, 05:39 PM
Ferg   Cool! I hope you figure this out. Don't ...   May 8 2007, 11:33 AM
rhodyguy   i've heard dave hunt's h.t. starter in act...   May 8 2007, 11:41 AM
vsg914   use the jumper cable method to test everything wit...   May 8 2007, 11:54 AM
Travis Neff   I just did a bench test on mine, hook the positive...   May 8 2007, 12:33 PM
Twystd1   The problem probably isn't the starter section...   May 8 2007, 01:28 PM
Gint   As long as nothing smashes your face in Kevin, I f...   May 8 2007, 03:42 PM
Aaron Cox   your local FLAPS will test the starter for you.......   May 8 2007, 05:16 PM
Twystd1   The Flaps idea is a good one. There is one proble...   May 8 2007, 05:54 PM
LS6/914   Crap, Ive been on the train too long again. K, I h...   May 9 2007, 05:55 PM
Root_Werks   Kevin, let me know if you got the starter yet. In...   May 13 2007, 02:47 PM
sixnotfour   Dan he is over here; http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   May 13 2007, 04:08 PM
Root_Werks   Dan he is over here; http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   May 13 2007, 04:51 PM


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