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> OT Engineers / Scientists, How many are out there
OT Engineers / Scientists
Are you (by training) an engineer or hard scientist?
Yes [ 74 ] ** [72.55%]
No [ 28 ] ** [27.45%]
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914nerd
post Jun 20 2007, 05:56 PM
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Well, how many of you are there lurking out here on the world?
If you are one, what field, what do you actually do, and how do you like what you do?

This is prompted by a conversation that I had earlier today questioning the future of technical fields in this country.
What do you people think about the fact that science (arguably one of the most important aspects of modern life) is being shunned and, in many ways, is beginning to fall apart?
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:57 AM
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B.S., Computer Science. I've been in software engineering for 20 years now, and playing with computers and cars for longer than that... in fact, since before computers and cars got hitched.

Why is science not getting the respect it should in this country? My opinions, which are worth what you paid for them...

1. Science is not "cool." When a LeBron James can get an NBA contract to play basketball out of high school, what does this say to kids? Why should they study in school when the really "cool" jobs involve playing sports? This attitude is aided and abetted by state and local governments who spend tax dollars on sports arenas and stadiums while their schools wither on the vine. You want to see some really nice stadiums, come to Baltimore. You want to see horrible schools that the city has been fighting a state takeover, come to Baltimore.

2. Media appeals to the lowest common denominator. There's a reason that right-wing talk shows are dominated by guys like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity rather than by George Will and Robert Novak. The first two guys tell people more or less what they want to hear, and the latter two more or less make reasoned arguments to make their case. It could be a radio versus print thing, as radio requires almost no intellectual involvement (that's why it's popular to listen to while driving a car) while reading an op-ed column requires a vocabulary and some reading comprehension skills. (NB: I don't listen to talk radio of any variety, unless you consider local news radio to be "talk radio.")

3. Although I have not delved deeply into the book, I have read the introduction to Al Gore's "The Assault on Reason" and I agree with some of his points, one of which is that somehow, pseudo-science has been accorded a respectability that it has not earned, considering that said pseudo-science is not subjected to the same rigorous tests that real science is; yet pseudo-science is pushed by people who dress it up as fact and use it to push their partisan agendas. Creationism is a prime example of this... how people can advocate it being taught in science classes, I really can't comprehend.

(Please don't jump all over my case and call me a biased lefty... first, it's not true, and second, if you don't know me personally, you probably won't guess my political leanings. I'm just calling it the way I see it.)
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914nerd   OT Engineers / Scientists   Jun 20 2007, 05:56 PM
Headrage   Industrial Engineering degree here. Electrical ...   Jun 20 2007, 06:00 PM
toomanyinkc   Mechanical engineer. Professional Engineering lic...   Jun 20 2007, 06:10 PM
Demick   Your poll is going to be completely skewed. Reaso...   Jun 20 2007, 06:14 PM
orange914   Your poll is going to be completely skewed. Reas...   Jun 21 2007, 09:49 PM
ChrisNPDrider   As a hardcore scientist, I have to say your Poll i...   Jun 20 2007, 06:17 PM
LowGT   My BS is in Forensic Chemistry. I do drug identifi...   Jun 20 2007, 06:19 PM
914nerd   Well, let it be more of a poll for those "dor...   Jun 20 2007, 06:21 PM
Jake Raby   Great post... Now I know who my enemies are :-) Ke...   Jun 20 2007, 06:24 PM
SLITS   Great post... Now I know who my enemies are :-) K...   Jun 20 2007, 06:27 PM
Mid_Engine_914   I'm not a scientist or an engineer but I recen...   Jun 20 2007, 06:26 PM
thomasotten   I'm not a scientist or an engineer but I rece...   Jun 20 2007, 06:38 PM
Mid_Engine_914   Where did you get that quote.... I want the sou...   Jun 21 2007, 12:27 AM
thomasotten   Mechanical by degree. Mechanical/Electrical/Softw...   Jun 20 2007, 06:35 PM
Johny Blackstain   Jack of all trades by experience, BS Telecommunica...   Jun 20 2007, 06:40 PM
TonyAKAVW   BS ('00), MS ('03) Electrical Engineering....   Jun 20 2007, 06:41 PM
BK911   :miles:   Jun 20 2007, 07:01 PM
swl   Electrical Engineer by training, IT Manager by tra...   Jun 20 2007, 07:08 PM
root   Degree:Electrical Career Specialty:Electromagnetic...   Jun 20 2007, 07:23 PM
marks914   Engineers are my enemy at work, I am a designer Ju...   Jun 20 2007, 07:38 PM
root   Engineers are my enemy at work, I am a designer J...   Jun 20 2007, 07:57 PM
sww914   Engineers are my enemy at work, I am a designer ...   Jun 20 2007, 09:23 PM
TonyAKAVW   Sorry, ingenuity is impossible. -Tony   Jun 20 2007, 07:45 PM
woobn8r   My "EHO" (every body has one....B.A.) is...   Jun 20 2007, 07:55 PM
shadygrady   BS Civil Engineering. Telecommunications engineer...   Jun 20 2007, 07:56 PM
BMXerror   What do you people think about the fact that scie...   Jun 20 2007, 07:57 PM
brp914   BS chemistry. Interesting in school, but from wha...   Jun 20 2007, 08:11 PM
914rrr   Does an associates degree in EE Technology count? ...   Jun 20 2007, 09:16 PM
Pat Garvey   Was a TLC chemist (thin layer chromatograpgy) for ...   Jun 20 2007, 09:22 PM
cantley914   Natural gas pipeline technician. Not an engineer ...   Jun 20 2007, 09:33 PM
SGB   BS Civil (Environmental) Engineering, 1982 MS Engi...   Jun 20 2007, 09:56 PM
kwales   Uh Oh, I 've been spotted..... Mechanical Eng...   Jun 20 2007, 10:01 PM
Dr Evil   Hmm, not sure. 16 years of electronics experience...   Jun 20 2007, 10:25 PM
Aaron Cox   have another year or 2 for my BS in Civil Engineer...   Jun 20 2007, 11:48 PM
Lou W   I spent 12 1/2 years in the aerospace industry, la...   Jun 21 2007, 12:37 AM
Grngoat   Interesting thread. It got me to quit lurking for...   Jun 21 2007, 01:09 AM
Blood red 914-6gt   Ummm. I kinda feel silly for being in this thread....   Jun 21 2007, 01:09 AM
BahnBrenner914   I have 2 years done on my BS Mechanical Engineerin...   Jun 21 2007, 02:53 AM
pin31   No pocket protector, goofy glasses or dual slide r...   Jun 21 2007, 06:40 AM
i love porsche   going into my last year for my BS in Mechanical en...   Jun 21 2007, 08:13 AM
Justinp71   Just Graduated a year ago with a BS in Mechanical ...   Jun 21 2007, 08:17 AM
914nerd   And what do people think about the current state o...   Jun 21 2007, 09:49 AM
mrdezyne   BS-ME ID MGR / ME for Sonar and GPS consumer produ...   Jun 21 2007, 09:56 AM
zymurgist   B.S., Computer Science. I've been in software...   Jun 21 2007, 09:57 AM
Borderline   Before I couldn't even spell ingenear now I ar...   Jun 21 2007, 10:02 AM
914nerd   Ken I actually agree with a lot of that The public...   Jun 21 2007, 10:09 AM
jaminM3   I am in my second year of a mechanical Engineering...   Jun 21 2007, 11:35 AM
andys   I just hired an entry level engineer for my staff....   Jun 21 2007, 11:40 AM
914nerd   Andys, it's all too common a problem And it...   Jun 21 2007, 12:24 PM
MrZir   This thread brought me out of lurking. I am an ae...   Jun 21 2007, 12:32 PM
914nerd   MrZir :wttc:   Jun 21 2007, 01:26 PM
jhadler   Physicist by education and by profession. Have wor...   Jun 21 2007, 02:21 PM
AZ914   Software Engineer by experience...   Jun 21 2007, 02:25 PM
Mid_Engine_914   Wow. So many brainiacs ... is it just coincidence ...   Jun 21 2007, 04:26 PM
914nerd   Josh It's the few that actually value intellec...   Jun 21 2007, 04:27 PM
zymurgist   Josh It's the few that actually value intelle...   Jun 21 2007, 04:49 PM
jk76.914   OK. I'll go next... B.S. Aeronautics and Ast...   Jun 21 2007, 06:28 PM
pin31   OK. I'll go next... B.S. Aeronautics and As...   Jun 21 2007, 07:31 PM
swl   Apollo Computer Long time since I heard that name...   Jun 23 2007, 06:07 AM
SharonG   BS in Mechanical Engineering, University of Colora...   Jun 21 2007, 09:44 PM
grantsfo   Industrial Engineer by training. Business degree ...   Jun 21 2007, 10:05 PM
zymurgist   Apropos Charles's original question, I ran acr...   Jun 22 2007, 06:35 AM
Dave_Darling   Computer Science geek. Working in Aeronautics Res...   Jun 22 2007, 09:59 AM
Lavanaut   BS Computer Science, software engineer since (yike...   Jun 22 2007, 10:12 AM
bryanf   BS Mechanical Engineering MS & PhD in Biomedic...   Jun 22 2007, 05:02 PM
Mueller   I'm an MME Mickey Mouse Engineer :blink: s...   Jun 22 2007, 05:19 PM
Headrage   still not making money :) Join the club bud... ...   Jun 22 2007, 08:23 PM
brp914   blah blah blah, what car(s)/bike(s) ya got? :D   Jun 22 2007, 08:36 PM
bryanf   blah blah blah, what car(s)/bike(s) ya got? :...   Jun 23 2007, 01:05 AM
rleonardccemtp   Not me, but my lovely wife...Mechanical Engineer   Jun 23 2007, 01:18 PM
akron_zip   BSEE from "The University of Akron" [I a...   Jun 23 2007, 04:22 PM
Grelber   Math Degree w/ a minor in Computer Sciences (back ...   Jun 23 2007, 04:36 PM


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