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Good steward of planet????? yeah right, if that was the case you should remove the 914 from the road forever. Instead you sell it (for personnel gain) thus allowing that car to be driven by someone that is not a good planet steward.
maybe you should buy some of Gores carbon credits to make up for your lack of stewardship in wanting to sell your car to be used, rather than turning it into an organic compost bin. (besure to drill holes in floor so rain water can drain out, else compost will rot) Kind of like arnold nazi shwartzni**er selling off his fleet of humvees so he could sauy he is a green driver! Now his fleet (yes fleet) of humvees that he sold are being driven by multible folks, likely totally more miles driven that if arnold had kept them (I figure arnold can only drive one at a time) This post has been edited by McMark: Jul 30 2007, 01:27 PM |
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I for one am more than willing to drive an old car that gets 30-34mpg over a new car that gets less mpg.
The analysis that always brings it home is this. A typical lifespan of a solar photo voltaic panel is less than the time it takes for that panel to create more "free energy" then it consumed to create that panel in the first place. Now, this has been fact since PV panels have been created, its still a fact for the most part, though finally the new process has changed this, and in the next 5 years we will see PV panels the are positive producers of electricity. Car, I cant possibly imaging, given the FACT regarding a PV panel, that a car which is new, like a prius, does nothing but consume energy in the manufacturing life cycle. I cant imagine that I might save anything by buying it. I have to drive to work to make the money to pay for it, right. There cant possibly be any good simple arguement to buy a new car from any environmental standpoint. Please, before you react, read the part about the manufacturing of a PV panel that actually contributes "free" and clean power to our world. There is no way a new car could possibly have any positive impact at all on our planet. If all the new car manufacturing stopped, think of the reduction of smog then, plants closed, steel manufacturing slows, trucking, logistics,... This list goes on and on, for in fact it is the LARGEST manufacturing business in the world. There is no business, no product, no total lifecycle , that consumes MORE that the design/build/operation of a car. The longer any product lives, the smaller the overall polution footprint is on the world, just a fact, no opinion, just pure numbers. Again, please hold the emotion, look at the PV panel example, and I am glad to point you to many many studies regarding that example. Cars, the longer they live, the longer you use them, the smaller the overall pollution signature is per year/per mile. Rich |
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