What tires should I use?, For some spirited street driving |
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What tires should I use?, For some spirited street driving |
purple |
Aug 13 2007, 02:21 PM
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Pigeon feeders attract me Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 7,942 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys,
As I'm nearing completion of my fuel system resto on my teener...I'm faced with the choice of tires, as the first stop for me is going to be discount tire for a balancing; as the car shimmies when I get around 65 mph, then a trip to gashead motorworks for an alignment, as it pulls to the right. I was thinking, since I'm at DT, mayhaps I should put some new shoes on there. I HATE the tires on the teener, they are 185 65 R15's from god knows who...they say HR metric. They have ZERO grip and I've almost spun the car twice because of their utter lack of traction...and my utter lack of skill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/owned.gif) I'd like some recommendations from you guys...I was thinking of some Falken Azenis in 205 50 r 15's, but I've found on here that they are so small the engine is really revved up on the highway, and I would like to take the car to galveston a few times, and screaming engines on the highway would get annoying, as houston highway speeds are in the 80's. Any recommendations for me that DONT involve flares, 5 lugs, or prayers to Ra, god of the sun? Having a somewhat accurate speedo would be nice... I'm running stock 15X5.5 Mahle's with a 2 inch drop. This car is unlikely to see a whole lot of track time until I put my dual 40's on it... |
woobn8r |
Aug 15 2007, 08:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 607 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,435 Region Association: None |
DD I agree with your statements...and if the Azenis suits your particular needs that is great...that's why tires are all different...I'm going to assume you auto -x in a class where "R" compounds are prohibited....my original comments to purple are directed for selecting a tire apropriate to street driving in more varied conditions.(see, I should have asked you more questions)...lol
To clarify, I never said "all XXX tires are bad" ...my point is that smaller companies cannot produce state of the art tires as they cannot afford the R&D. In the case of the Azenis it is possible to have a small company produce a tire that does 1 thing well, heck, mabe even 2 but modern technology allows designers to produce tires that do everything better...of course that does not mean that the designs have held "dry grip" as the overriding priority...especially in a non "R" compound. And I supose my priorities are different from yours so I would expect more from my street tires. jw. Glad you are not angry or taking things personally... But be very clear on this...I did NOT say or infer anyone was a "CHEAT". The statement about asking questions revolves around professionalism....there are many tires on the market, there are many cars in the market, there are many different driving styles of people that use their cars for different things. Having said all of that if a tire professional is reccomending a tire to someone to purchase...to get the PROPER application you must ask the end user a lot of questions to find the right tire(s) to present. people selling tires often find a size and give the "cheapest price" or reccomend what they have in stock, or what they make the most margin on...these people are not "cheats" they just do not have the end users best interests at heart. Also, just because a person has found a "value" tire that suits "their" own needs does not mean that that tire is right for the next customer through the door. You should not manke assumptions on a customer's needs...better to ask and be sure. As for my employer, well, this is a PUBLIC board...and I am not representing my employer. I share my knowledge and experience as a 914 enthusiast and ex racer. Please don't assume who I work for or what information I am privy to. You don't have to believe me as we have never met and this is just electronic communication, but I am telling you (and everyone) how I see it. I suppose it's worth what you pay... Regarding the O.E. fittments...I just pulled a book from the shelf in my office for FIRESTONE passenger and light truck Original Equipment 2007. It reads TOYOTA Sienna, Firestone Affinity P215/65R15 amongst all the others I stated. I may be wrong, but then all of FIRESTONE is using the same book...you decide. I am happy you like the Fuzion tires so much. They are designed, sold and made by Bridgestone Firestone (again you don't have to believe me...but you should)...In the context of the original posts it again proves that smaller companies cannot build cutting edge technology tires...in this case Bridgestone Firestone decided to take some market share where these smaller companies usually play...and offered a great tire at a fantastic price. Please note that throughout this discussion I have not mentioned "quality" as any manufacturer using old or new technology can build "quality" tires. For example COOPER tire, a US tire manufacturer has a reputation for QUALITY made tires (made in the US) although they have extremely outdated technology. So if their product suits a particular persons needs it is a good tire to consider. Don't confuse "quality" and "technology". |
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