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> Picked-up a new Bosch 050 at the GAF swapmeet, Any tips and tricks for timing?
computers4kids
post Sep 9 2007, 08:36 PM
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I picked up a 9 230 081 050 new Bosch distributor for $50 at the GAF swap meet today and just looking for some tuning tips. I am used to tuning FI motors with a vacum advance. I will most likely drop in a pertronix unit as well so not to mess with points.

What do I need to know about using this guy with a cabureted motor?
Since this is a fully centrifigual distributor, what is the proper timing specs for a 1.8 with weber 40s? Do I set the timing at 3200 rpm for about 27 degrees and not worry about where the timing ends-up at a idle?

Appreciate any tips,
Mark
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post Sep 11 2007, 08:25 PM
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I agree with andys.

I WON'T put a dizzy on any engine I build for me.

WITHOUT HAVING THE DIZZY CURVED TO a known proper spec for that combo.
Doesn't matter if it's Chevy or Ford or Porsche..

Or a book spec on a bone stock engine.

Old dizzys with perfect bushings still may have worn springs or advance weight bushing issues... ect... ect.... And they won't advance/retard correctly. It doesn't take much to screw em up either.

Thats why it is MANDATORY in my mind to have any dizzy checked on a distributor machine.

That includes the slightly used Mallory I bought for my soon to be new build.

Hell it's cheap (30 -75 bucks) And guarantees it is set up RIGHT with no hiccups.

I just don't trust ANY stock or aftermarket dizzy to be the curved correctly because the directions say so. I just don't buy it.

And yes the Mallory Distributor is the cats meow for our application.
Thats common knowledge to many of the folks here.

It all kinda depends on the amount of money one has at the time.

Even a 009 works recurved with ALL NEW BUSHINGS, springs, etc... and a bunch of careful tweaking. (And I fucking hate 009s)

It's just not optimum.

And the farther away one gets from stock and goes more towards performance.
Every little bit makes a BIG difference on longevity and performance. (Hence the Mallory or programmable ignition)

I say curve it with a smooth curve and run it. 12 idle/ 28 -30 all in at 3K+

Thats a good ballpark number to start with.

Then when you have some extra bucks.
Sell it to a 356 or 912 guy for 200 bucks, then add 150 to it and buy a Mallory.

Thats what I would do anyway. If'n I couldn't afford a Mallory at the time.

Lets be clear on one thing. Jake doesn't like em and he explained himself very well as to why. I'm not dumb enough to make him wrong. As he knows more than me.

That doesn't mean it won't work.
And work BETTER than a worn out stock dizzy. (this assumes thats your case)

By the way. A properlyrebuilt STOCK dizzy that has been re-curved is relatively equal (or better) to almost any of the other BOSCH dizzys we have talked about here.

I just wish the Bosch dizzys had Bigger caps to alleviate spark scatter.
We can't fix that design problem. Ya just have to buy a Mallory to mitigate that.

Give your 050 a try and see what happens. OR sell it now for bank and get the Mallory like Aaron said.

Oh.. All of the above was reffering to a bosch dizzy WITHOUT points.
Add points into the decision on a used bosch dizzy. NOT ME.

Wow... One more thread and I didn't say anything... I getting good at this stuff.........

Cheers,

Clayton
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computers4kids   Picked-up a new Bosch 050 at the GAF swapmeet   Sep 9 2007, 08:36 PM
SGB   when I had an .050, I just static timed it to 10 d...   Sep 9 2007, 09:24 PM
Aaron Cox   sell it and put that 50 toward the mallory..... o...   Sep 9 2007, 10:19 PM
Aaron Cox   also... unless that 050 is NEW, the bushings could...   Sep 9 2007, 10:21 PM
Twystd1   Never mind............   Sep 9 2007, 10:55 PM
ahdoman   Mark, I love my 050. It woke my engine up big time...   Sep 9 2007, 10:58 PM
Twystd1   Tweak it to the specs I gave you at GAF. It will b...   Sep 9 2007, 11:26 PM
computers4kids   Lot's of ideas. I am in no way married to thi...   Sep 10 2007, 09:24 AM
Coy   Hey Mark, You rode in my car and it has 40mm Webbe...   Sep 10 2007, 09:38 AM
Jake Raby   The 050 is my least favorite distributor sof stree...   Sep 10 2007, 10:02 AM
computers4kids   Mark, I love my 050. It woke my engine up big tim...   Sep 10 2007, 10:40 PM
Coy   I'm sure I could get verbally abused here, but...   Sep 11 2007, 12:21 AM
MarkV   I ran a 050 for a long time, always had a dead spo...   Sep 11 2007, 01:44 AM
Jake Raby   The 050 has a faster curve, but it also has more a...   Sep 11 2007, 10:25 AM
Coy   The 050 has a faster curve, but it also has more ...   Sep 11 2007, 01:36 PM
Aaron Cox   mallory unilite or crankfire are the only accurate...   Sep 11 2007, 01:38 PM
Coy   Okay Arron, to show you just how little I know abo...   Sep 11 2007, 01:52 PM
Aaron Cox   mallory unilite = a billet body dizzy, with bearin...   Sep 11 2007, 02:33 PM
andys   I know little about the 050, but have done many a ...   Sep 11 2007, 02:49 PM
Twystd1   I agree with andys. I WON'T put a dizzy on an...   Sep 11 2007, 08:25 PM
Jake Raby   Put a timing light on any 009,050 or similar dizzy...   Sep 12 2007, 12:11 AM


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