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| jonferns |
 Oct 7 2007, 07:03 PM
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was considering a 2.7-ish engine for a shell that I have. After reviewing what is necessary, I am starting to think that a big four is sufficient.
what is the normal power output for a 2056, and can that setup run on FI? looking for something with a bit more power than what we have. Currently have a spare 2.0 out of a '75/'76 sitting in the garage... thanks! -JON |
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 8 2007, 01:32 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
The 2056 is a potent combo, not as torque filled as the 2270 but easier to make a revver from.
Today one doesn't have to make a 4 "Big" to get insane power, hell a 2270 is only a 10% displacement increase to more than double the stock 2.0 power with equal reliability and longevity as well as runing temps. I continually preach to enthusiasts not to make the /4 big, keep it at 2316cc or smaller and make the engine efficient. Today our most powerful combinations are based on the 2056,2270 and 2316 platforms. As we work to get volume up on our product line prices should drop again the beginning of the year on everything except cylinder heads, which will see approximately a 10% cost increase.Our LE Heads are a huge part of how our engines function as efficiently as they dobut also a great factor in the cost of the performance. In early 08 I plan on doing some further development on an optimized D jet set up much like Dan's engine. With all bolt on parts that will include a Mallory Unilite, air filter housing manipulation and other bolt on tricks that can be purchased in stages and benefit any D jet 914 owner. Now that more and more people are going the TIV route we can offer more developments at higher volumes at a reduced cost. Volume really is the key. FYI_ I have an article to release in a few weeks titled "Creating the 914S engine " wich outlines basically what dan and many others have done based on my parts and thoughts. It'll be available on my forums under Jake's technical articles. This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Oct 8 2007, 01:34 PM |
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| Rand |
Oct 8 2007, 01:54 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Oct 8 2007, 12:32 PM)  In early 08 I plan on doing some further development on an optimized D jet set up much like Dan's engine. With all bolt on parts that will include a Mallory Unilite, air filter housing manipulation and other bolt on tricks that can be purchased in stages and benefit any D jet 914 owner. Cool! I'm looking forward to seeing more on this! Where will you be triggering the FI from? |
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sendjonathanmail small 6 vs. big 4 Oct 7 2007, 07:03 PM
McMark Oh crap, here we go again...... :lol2:
My vote i... Oct 7 2007, 07:25 PM Rand :lol: Indeed. I think we've been on this ride ... Oct 7 2007, 07:56 PM LarryR I have been debating the exact same thing. Based o... Oct 7 2007, 08:00 PM grantsfo If you're just building a street car a 2056 wi... Oct 7 2007, 08:18 PM Andyrew And theres always Jakes engines.... Oct 8 2007, 01:17 AM sendjonathanmail
and if I didnt want it to be so "wicked... Oct 8 2007, 08:18 AM
grantsfo
and if I didnt want it to be so "wicked... Oct 8 2007, 09:43 AM Vacca Rabite Jon,
If you use the Djet that you got with that e... Oct 8 2007, 10:04 AM Dan (Almaden Valley) I built a 2056 using 96mm KB aluminum pistons, and... Oct 8 2007, 10:32 AM Dan (Almaden Valley) and here is what it looked like before going back ... Oct 8 2007, 10:35 AM Dan (Almaden Valley) and finally in the car Oct 8 2007, 10:36 AM grantsfo I can attest to the fact Dan's car is very fas... Oct 8 2007, 12:50 PM Dan (Almaden Valley)
I can attest to the fact Dan's car is very fa... Oct 8 2007, 01:03 PM grantsfo
I can attest to the fact Dan's car is very f... Oct 8 2007, 01:23 PM Dan (Almaden Valley) Jake, if you need a real world test mule, mine is ... Oct 8 2007, 01:50 PM Jake Raby No problem Dan.. Glad you are happy.
What I plan ... Oct 8 2007, 01:57 PM Al Meredith I have a Raby 2056 in my 912E and it is great. I b... Oct 8 2007, 04:11 PM Dave_Darling Going the Four route will be quite a bit simpler. ... Oct 8 2007, 06:03 PM rjames
I'm sure there will be no shortage of people... Oct 8 2007, 07:29 PM LarryR
and if I didnt want it to be so "wicked... Oct 8 2007, 09:47 PM Jake Raby The Stinson heads are probably cheaper than ours a... Oct 9 2007, 07:33 AM Inspector For educational purposes is there any photos of th... Oct 9 2007, 08:39 AM Jake Raby Nothing is the same between the two engines, they... Oct 9 2007, 08:54 AM cnavarro For educational purposes, if you want to see pics ... Oct 10 2007, 03:48 PM |
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