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> Welders: If you had to choose one...?
Danny_Ocean
post Oct 21 2007, 01:31 PM
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I have yet to learn to weld. I would like to purchase (and learn on) a welder that will be most useful to the average "car guy"...welding sheetmetal, repairing broken mounts, adding brackets to rollbars/frames, etc. Nothing exotic, just basic repairs for the average mechanic. My shop has 220v if that matters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Oct 21 2007, 06:24 PM
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Here is my 2 cents...

Stick vs. MIG vs. TIG

Get a MIG unit. IMHO they really are the easiest to do and will probably cover 100% of your needs.

110v vs. 220v

If you plan to every cart this unit elsewhere (i.e. goto a friends house to weld something form them) then this is where a 110v may be more of an advantage. The 110v are slightly less expensive than 220v, but frankly if you factor in stuff like mig gas, helmet, gloves, etc. the total cost difference is going to be pretty small. The 220v unit will weld heavier metal without needing to do multiple passes.

I personally don't think 220v is going to cause more problems with thinner metal. For a given lown end 110v and 220v from the same manufacture, I think the settings are pretty much the same. The 110v may have four voltage settings while the 220 may have five with settings one through four being pretty close for both units and the fifth setting on the 220 being the one that gives it the extra power that the 110v doesn't have. I think technique and not 110 vs. 220 is going to determine how well you weld thin metal.

Gas Shield vs. Flux Core

Get a unit that can do shielding gas. That same unit will be able to do Flux core, but frankly you should be using shielding gas for what you are looking to do as it will be easier to see the weld pool (it is for me at least) and there is not as much mess to clean up (slag)

Learning to Weld

While learning it the hard way (lots of trial and error) is fine, you may end up with some bad habits and not really knowing how to weld correctly. My suggestion is to look into an evening welding class at a local community college. That is how I did it and think it was a great experience.

With this being said, I have a cheaper Lincoln 220V unit (like what you might find at Lowes of Home Depot) and have been pretty happy with it. If I was to do any more than just hobby welding and I had the money, I might buy a unit that had infinitely variable settings vs. 4 or 5 settings for voltage and 10 settings for wirespeed. I learned on a much nicer unit at class and can see why they work better than the cheaper unit. But I have been able to do a lot of good stuff with my cheaper unit at home. I also may look into getting a cheap HF TIG inverter because I did some TIG in class and loved it.

Oh, and welding is fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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Danny_Ocean   Welders: If you had to choose one...?   Oct 21 2007, 01:31 PM
Vacca Rabite   You don't need 220. All you need is a 115 vol...   Oct 21 2007, 01:51 PM
Danny_Ocean   Will a 115v unit produce strong enough welds for t...   Oct 21 2007, 02:22 PM
ejm   You might have a problem doing those repairs on he...   Oct 21 2007, 03:02 PM
scotty b   This will do ANYHTING you will need on your car an...   Oct 21 2007, 03:20 PM
LvSteveH   These are great for just about anything on a 914 a...   Oct 21 2007, 03:37 PM
Danny_Ocean   I won't be exceeding my limitations. If there ...   Oct 21 2007, 03:59 PM
Spoke   So...115v MIG sounds like the deal, yes? Yep, i...   Oct 21 2007, 04:49 PM
Danny_Ocean   Yep, it works well for me. I was hesitant to get ...   Oct 21 2007, 04:56 PM
dflesburg   115volt MIG Get one with: Variable Wire speed T...   Oct 21 2007, 05:05 PM
Dr. Roger   thick steel plate. you need the penetration power...   Oct 21 2007, 05:07 PM
JPB   If my name had Ocean in it and had your daneros, I...   Oct 21 2007, 05:18 PM
Danny_Ocean   If my name had Ocean in it and had your daneros, ...   Oct 21 2007, 05:23 PM
bperry   Do you have a manuf./model #? I went to the Mill...   Oct 21 2007, 07:00 PM
scotty b   <_< http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-DYNASTY-200...   Oct 21 2007, 05:28 PM
Danny_Ocean   Thanks, but those seem a little "overkill...   Oct 21 2007, 05:38 PM
JPB   I'm not trying to knock down any welders of wh...   Oct 21 2007, 06:12 PM
Gint   I'm perfectly happy with my 220v Miller 175 wi...   Oct 21 2007, 06:14 PM
JPB   95% of all my teener welds are done with a Lincon ...   Oct 21 2007, 06:23 PM
Richard Casto   Here is my 2 cents... Stick vs. MIG vs. TIG Get ...   Oct 21 2007, 06:24 PM
roadster fan   I am not an experienced welder by any means but ea...   Oct 22 2007, 01:53 AM
stephenaki   OK, I have been reading the thread and it is a gre...   Oct 22 2007, 04:38 AM
type47   Here is my question on the subject to add a tw...   Oct 22 2007, 06:49 AM
stephenaki   i don't think you can or should do this but ...   Oct 23 2007, 02:43 AM
Richard Casto   i don't think you can or should do this but...   Oct 23 2007, 10:59 AM
Wes V   I've got a Miller MM130 mig and I can't en...   Oct 22 2007, 10:52 AM
Jax914   I bought the Millermatic 135 a couple of years ago...   Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM


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