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> timecert question, helicoil uncoiling
VaccaRabite
post Nov 6 2007, 02:31 PM
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The skinny:
Spark plug helicoil is going bad - uncoiling out of the socket. I know that I want to timesert it to fix the problem.

BUT

Since the socket has a helicoil in it (that needs to come out) what size timecert do I need to get?

ALSO

How do I get the bad helicoil out of the head without doing further damage to the head? The head is off the engine, so I am not worried about bits of coil falling into the cylinder.

This site has MANY sert options, but I don't know which one I need. HELP?!
http://www.timesert.com/html/sparkplug.html

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Zach
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HAM Inc
post Nov 7 2007, 09:57 AM
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Thanks Dr. Evil. I'm happy to be of service! I've been reading your tranny rebuild tips lately very informative!
Zach you want the 15mm insert. If you pull the old wire out slowly with a twisting motion it will come out with minimal if any dmage to the threads.
Remember that the reason Zach needs a tap is to clean up the existing oversize threads and the tap then serves as a pilot for the counterbore operation. I suppose a plug style 16mm x 1.25 tap would work for the operation if the shank is the same size as the Time-Sert tool. But I'll bet a dollar the the Time-Sert tap will be easier to find and cheaper than a 16 x 1.25 plug tap.
For those of you on the West coast Pendergrass Tool is a Time-Sert rep in Somis, CA . Jim Pendergrass is a nice guy and has lots of specialized automotive tools. 800 926 1847
Another thing you need to watch when performing the countersink operation is make sure you don't go any deeper than it takes to just clean-up the surface that the compression washer seals against. If you go to deep the plug will sit deeper in the head and the first thread will be exposed in the chamber. It will carbon up and the next time you change your plugs it will unwind the insert, making a mess. If you use the 17mm insert the first couple of threads on the insert (the ones that swedge into the head) will protrude into the chamber and the swedge will not work. Been there done that!
Make sure you use Never-Seaze on your plugs! It doesn't take much to make a + difference. To much can cause ignition problems.
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Vacca Rabite   timecert question   Nov 6 2007, 02:31 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You need a 3/4 inch long spark plug insert (14mm x...   Nov 6 2007, 03:46 PM
Joe Ricard   Yea what the crusty one said.   Nov 6 2007, 04:23 PM
HAM Inc   Make sure you grab the tag end at the outside of t...   Nov 6 2007, 05:39 PM
jimtab   Make sure you grab the tag end at the outside of ...   Nov 6 2007, 11:54 PM
slim72914   NO NOT YANK it out! you should be able to turn...   Nov 7 2007, 09:08 AM
root   I have installed a blue million TimeSerts and hav...   Nov 7 2007, 10:36 AM
Dr Evil   Len, thanks for posting your expertise here :D I a...   Nov 6 2007, 08:01 PM
root   Len, thanks for posting your expertise here :D I ...   Nov 7 2007, 10:32 AM
Vacca Rabite   The 14mm x 1.25 inserts come in multiple lengths. ...   Nov 6 2007, 09:23 PM
HAM Inc   Thanks Dr. Evil. I'm happy to be of service...   Nov 7 2007, 09:57 AM
Vacca Rabite   Sweet jesus! $150 for the install tooling...   Nov 7 2007, 11:26 AM
root   Sweet jesus! $150 for the install toolin...   Nov 7 2007, 02:44 PM
Vacca Rabite   What size tool do you need? If you can let me k...   Nov 7 2007, 05:02 PM
root   What size tool do you need? If you can let me ...   Nov 8 2007, 07:50 AM
tdgray   Forgive my total ignorance... what is the differen...   Nov 7 2007, 04:31 PM
Vacca Rabite   Forgive my total ignorance... what is the differe...   Nov 7 2007, 04:57 PM
GS Guy   Zach, Be sure to contact Timesert directly before ...   Nov 7 2007, 05:07 PM
Gint   Zach, Be sure to contact Timesert directly before...   Nov 8 2007, 08:15 AM
Dr Evil   Zach, Check with the old guys you bought your wind...   Nov 7 2007, 06:26 PM
Vacca Rabite   Zach, Check with the old guys you bought your win...   Nov 7 2007, 08:53 PM
Dr Evil   Nope, he is strictly salvage parts, not service. D...   Nov 7 2007, 09:29 PM
root   Zach, I pm'd you! :type:   Nov 8 2007, 09:43 AM


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