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| pffft |
 Jan 2 2008, 01:13 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 18-January 05 From: sierra foothills Member No.: 3,465  |
I am starting to firm up my chassis to better handle the
abuse my v8 and 930 will dish out. I have an unistalled roll cage that I may not use because it is a street car, so if I don't use it I will go with Engman. I also have had for 15 years an unopened "GT stiffening kit" There seems to be a lot of thought that it is not worth the trouble. Is this true? I can get one of Chris' kits with removable braces, but is there any reason to mix and match the two or should I go with only CFR stuff? The only rust I have found on the car is a small hole on top of the long in the hell hole. I'll start digging in there this weekend to see how bad it is, but the rest of the longs are in great shape (california cars = good) patrick |
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| pffft |
Jan 3 2008, 02:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 18-January 05 From: sierra foothills Member No.: 3,465 |
Great information everyone. John, that thread you directed us to is
GREAT and Jeff, thanks for the rest of the pictures. Eric, I had thought the "if you put the inner fenderwell part on you are just welding to a cover" bit was gospel, but it SURE looks like that is not true.(!) Looks like I'm gonna use the gt kit and Chris' ear kit. Not sure about the welding the longs to shock tower, but as long as I'm in there burning holes in stuff anyway... I know there are some strong opinions about cages on the street. If I am willing to have to crawl over/around the bars, is a padded cage any more dangerous than any tight hardtopped car? Not trolling, I just really want to know. I had one in a cj5 and it was never a problem, but that's a very different set of dimensions. thanks all, patrick |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 3 2008, 02:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,707 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(pffft @ Jan 3 2008, 12:44 PM)  If I am willing to have to crawl over/around the bars, is a padded cage any more dangerous than any tight hardtopped car? get into *any* '70 (at least european) car and look around. your head will be within inches of the side-roof supports and b-pillars that are usually just covered by some vinyl/cloth/flimsy plastic. i have a friend who rolled over his '74 super beetle. i looked at the wreck the next day and found his eyebrow (yes, the whole eyebrow!) stuck on the passanger(!) side b-pillar! my point is, a cage with adequate padding is no more dangerous than a similar period car without a cage ... flame on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| Amenson |
Jan 3 2008, 06:56 PM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 3 2008, 12:59 PM) QUOTE(pffft @ Jan 3 2008, 12:44 PM) If I am willing to have to crawl over/around the bars, is a padded cage any more dangerous than any tight hardtopped car? my point is, a cage with adequate padding is no more dangerous than a similar period car without a cage ... flame on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy No flames necessary on this topic. A properly padded cage in a street car is not a safety hazard. The Mosler MT900 is DOT Certified and has a full cage. Pictures from the crash test. (IMG:http://www.moslerauto.com/images/mt900/photo/crashtest/pic_001.jpg) (IMG:http://www.moslerauto.com/images/mt900/photo/crashtest/pic_003.jpg) I made the mistake of having this discussion with one of my fiancee's colleagues who consulted on this certification. Luckily it was during a race so he got tired of explaining over the noise of the cars how uninformed I was to have suggested that a cage is not suitable for use on the road. He did offer to supply padding for my cage when I put it in!! Scott |
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pffft GT stiffening kit really no help? Jan 2 2008, 01:13 PM
Eric_Shea I like it... all the pieces and then some (meaning... Jan 2 2008, 01:16 PM sww914 It reinforces areas that break. There may be bette... Jan 2 2008, 02:17 PM Richard Casto I am building a multipurpose 3.2L widebody track/a... Jan 2 2008, 02:22 PM Eric_Shea
The cage will strengthen it quite a bit, even wi... Jan 2 2008, 02:45 PM John I like my own extended version of the GT kit. I e... Jan 2 2008, 04:16 PM SirAndy there is one piece in particular that has been pro... Jan 2 2008, 04:39 PM John Here is the area that shows WHY the GT stiffening ... Jan 2 2008, 09:30 PM Jeff Hail Eric the site i going to go down again. I just kno... Jan 2 2008, 10:17 PM Jeff Hail Contd Jan 2 2008, 10:20 PM Jeff Hail The GT kits do help this area out a lot. The outer... Jan 2 2008, 10:31 PM
John The ONLY reason I do not prefer to have a cage in ... Jan 3 2008, 07:20 PM Eric_Shea
In a sense it is but, it does strengthen that ar... Jan 3 2008, 10:07 PM
Eric_Shea
Did you give it back to him? :D
I'm with a ... Jan 3 2008, 10:10 PM Jeff Hail
Did you give it back to him? :D
I'm with a... Jan 3 2008, 11:32 PM |
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