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Glenn832
post Feb 7 2008, 10:52 AM
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This is just a fantastic forum! Being quite the newb, forgive me if I'm on the wrong thread. I need some advise and I know that it'll be freely if not copiously given. I like it already!

We've got a '74 that, at the moment, is in pieces. It's a street/track (little more focus on the track) baby that is getting some minor additions to help with high speed stability. One is the addition of a rear wing. There are two choices. As you can see from the pics, it's not pretty but at this point that's not the point.

What do you think about aerodynamics/functionality and also aesthetics?

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post Feb 7 2008, 08:26 PM
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so the discussion is bringing up some good points - all aero stuff is very car and use dependent. So if you want to AX and have "high" speed oversteer ("high" being quoted as 55-70mph on larger courses is high for AX but not for an interstate hwy let alone road course) then you want a big, FAT wing (fat in foil shape) and will probably run a maximum angle (right near wing "stall") to get both a spoiler and wing effect. So first you add the wing, which tends to overshoot and create understeer. So now you start adding splitter to counteract that to the point of how you want the car to feel.

So my car had NASTY high speed oversteer (125+ mph sweeps at Willow Springs thru T8) with the V8 and 930 trans (both much heavier than stock stuff) but not necessarily low speed oversteer (I can use the go-pedal with all the power to get what I want). So the car was scary. I then went to a whole new car setup (tube chassis, etc) and also added a wing at that time. I have a short splitter because I wanted to tune the car to just a slight plow (At speed expectation of 150+ thru T8 I wanted a safe bit of plow). So if I had stayed in CA to try a longer splitter, at some point the car would have gotten neutral and I would have scaled back to be somewhat safe. That is why I recommend an adjustable splitter that you can slide back and forth to fine tune the front downforce to match the rear and get the driver feel you like (slight over, neutral or slight understeer). You tune the rear to the max downforce that doesn't drag mph down (unless the car is still unstable, then you go up to wing stall to fix that issue even if it slows the car slightly).
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Glenn832   wing comments   Feb 7 2008, 10:52 AM
rick 918-S   Don't have any advise on the spoilers vs wings...   Feb 7 2008, 11:00 AM
Justinp71   :wttc: I like the first one the most, I have bee...   Feb 7 2008, 11:08 AM
Trevorg7   :wttc: You're in the right place! Regar...   Feb 7 2008, 11:24 AM
byndbad914   any aero device mounted down on the decklid or a w...   Feb 7 2008, 11:28 AM
Joe Ricard   I have a wing it is functional and it doesn't...   Feb 7 2008, 11:30 AM
Glenn832   I have a wing it is functional and it doesn...   Feb 7 2008, 01:21 PM
byndbad914   :rotfl: is there an echo....echo....echo... haha. ...   Feb 7 2008, 11:39 AM
ChrisNPDrider   The Paddock is another forum here in 914World that...   Feb 7 2008, 12:00 PM
Twise   I agree with all above - and welcome to 914world...   Feb 7 2008, 12:06 PM
brer   without a wing your car will spin off into space.   Feb 7 2008, 12:09 PM
Joe Ricard   My car is 5 MPH faster with wing and air dam than ...   Feb 7 2008, 02:12 PM
Glenn832   My car is 5 MPH faster with wing and air dam than...   Feb 7 2008, 03:22 PM
byndbad914   What distance are you running your front dam/spli...   Feb 7 2008, 06:42 PM
toon1   without a wing your car will spin off into space....   Feb 7 2008, 04:37 PM
Matt Meyer   I think your wing has to be high. But I would get...   Feb 7 2008, 05:52 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   So does anyone have any good pictures of how you m...   Feb 7 2008, 06:54 PM
byndbad914   So does anyone have any good pictures of how you ...   Feb 7 2008, 07:04 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   cool. I guess I should just go buy some aluminium ...   Feb 7 2008, 07:06 PM
jd74914   It really won't make any difference in an auto...   Feb 7 2008, 07:19 PM
J P Stein   It really won't make any difference in an aut...   Feb 7 2008, 08:03 PM
Joe Ricard   It really won't make any difference in an aut...   Feb 7 2008, 08:09 PM
jd74914   Ok, they will make a difference, if they're bi...   Feb 7 2008, 08:10 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Hey Joe Could you please send me some pics of you...   Feb 7 2008, 08:17 PM
J P Stein   IF I could come up with a 200 sq in wing at a reso...   Feb 7 2008, 08:22 PM
byndbad914   so the discussion is bringing up some good points ...   Feb 7 2008, 08:26 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I used to work with Tyson Schmidt, Wevo guy, when ...   Feb 7 2008, 08:40 PM
byndbad914   Phoenix - that may be. I never met Tyson tho...   Feb 7 2008, 08:53 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Thanks for the link. That definately helps. I can ...   Feb 8 2008, 01:47 AM


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