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> D-Jet Fuel Injection Pulse Phasing
Not_A_Six
post Jul 15 2020, 04:51 PM
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Hi All-

I recently installed a 123Ignition dizzy in my '73 2.0. It apparently can be installed in any of 4 orientations, in 90 degree increments and operate properly when wired to the plugs appropriately.

The d-jet version of the 123 dizzy also has two wires that are used to time the two groups of fuel injection pulses (cyl 1+4 and 3+2). These wires can be connected to the ECU in either polarity, and the "correct" polarity to time/phase the injection pulses seems to depend upon both the distributor orientation, and the wire polarity. Instructions from 123 Ignition show a connector sketch that "suggests" a particular polarity, but I think the correct one also depends on the chosen dizzy orientation, as well as the firing order. (The dizzy can be used in non-914 applications. E.g., with a straight 4.)

I'm an EE. I've been through Paul Anders' ( @pbanders ) very helpful writeups on the ECU and d-jet operation. I've got d-jet schematics. And, I've got a generic (Volvo?) chart purporting to show the injection timing WRT the cylinders (which seems to have a lot of discrepancies with a 914 setup with different firing order.) I've also looked at the injection pulse/spark timing with an oscilloscope (with a high-v probe).

It looks like the orientation and polarity can be adjusted to inject fuel at any of the following times:

1) Inject cylinders 1 and 3 during intake stroke and cylinders 4 and 2 during exhaust stroke.

2) Inject cylinders 1 and 3 during power stroke and cylinders 4 and 2 during compression stroke.

3) Inject cylinders 1 and 3 during exhaust stroke and cylinders 4 and 2 during power stroke.

4) Inject cylinders 1 and 3 during compression stroke and cylinders 4 and 2 during intake stroke.

I think the choice of the 4 options above would affect the dwell time of the fuel charge in the intake runners and might also cause some raw fuel to be sent out the exhaust if a pulse occurs during valve overlap.

Which of the 4 configurations is correct? Is my analysis correct, or did I miss something? Any other advice you can give me?

Thanks for your help.

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Not_A_Six   D-Jet Fuel Injection Pulse Phasing   Jul 15 2020, 04:51 PM
914_teener   I installed the 123 with stock D jet as shown per ...   Jul 15 2020, 05:31 PM
Not_A_Six   I installed the 123 with stock D jet as shown per...   Jul 15 2020, 05:39 PM
JeffBowlsby   If I recall, DJet squirts a 50% charge in two batc...   Jul 15 2020, 06:59 PM
Not_A_Six   If I recall, DJet squirts a 50% charge in two bat...   Jul 15 2020, 07:13 PM
Not_A_Six   If I recall, DJet squirts a 50% charge in two bat...   Jul 15 2020, 09:56 PM
JeffBowlsby   Sounds good. Hence the need for two 50% fuel char...   Jul 15 2020, 10:40 PM
Not_A_Six   Sounds good. Hence the need for two 50% fuel cha...   Jul 16 2020, 09:23 AM
JeffBowlsby   The trigger points contain 2 switches which each i...   Jul 16 2020, 10:38 AM
Not_A_Six   The trigger points contain 2 switches which each ...   Jul 16 2020, 11:44 AM
914_teener   Added plus with the electronic dizzy is the elimin...   Jul 16 2020, 09:22 AM
Not_A_Six   Added plus with the electronic dizzy is the elimi...   Jul 16 2020, 09:58 AM
914_teener   Added plus with the electronic dizzy is the elim...   Jul 16 2020, 11:04 AM
Not_A_Six   Thanks! Yeah, the 123 dizzy looks pretty s...   Jul 16 2020, 12:16 PM
914_teener   [quote name='914_teener' post='2834348' date='Jul...   Jul 16 2020, 05:54 PM
Not_A_Six   Yes....I believe you are missing something. Fir...   Jul 16 2020, 06:54 PM
GregAmy   Bosch D-Jetronic is "batch injection". ...   Jul 16 2020, 12:02 PM
Not_A_Six   Bosch D-Jetronic is "batch injection". ...   Jul 16 2020, 12:20 PM
rjames   I have a 123dizzy and wasn’t able to get idle rp...   Jul 16 2020, 07:38 PM
Not_A_Six   I have a 123dizzy and wasn’t able to get idle r...   Jul 16 2020, 07:46 PM
Frank S   FWIW, this is not a stock engine. It's a 2056...   Jul 17 2020, 12:55 AM
Not_A_Six   FWIW, this is not a stock engine. It's a 205...   Jul 17 2020, 10:35 AM
Not_A_Six   Update for anybody interested: A special thanks t...   Jul 31 2020, 03:35 PM
914_teener   [quote name='Frank S' date='Jul 16 202...   Jul 17 2020, 04:25 PM
Not_A_Six   ...And so you would ajust the static timing and ru...   Jul 17 2020, 06:31 PM
914_teener   The ported vacuum is not "disabled". Tha...   Jul 16 2020, 08:02 PM
Not_A_Six   The ported vacuum is not "disabled". Th...   Jul 16 2020, 08:07 PM
ctc911ctc   THIS THREAD IS MASTER CLASS! :beer2: :head...   Jul 17 2020, 07:43 PM
pbanders   IMO, if there's a choice on the 123 between va...   May 21 2021, 04:21 PM


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