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> New Motor + Hot Running = ?, Advice, help, suggestions?
jhadler
post Aug 23 2009, 06:25 PM
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Hey all,

Starting a new thread here...

I'd like to get some advice please.

Here's the scoop:

New motor. 9:1 2056 w/ceramic coated euro race headers. Stock D-jet and stock ignition. Running on Brad Penn break-in oil.

Two shake down drives for break-in (varying rpm and load, staying out of WOT and mostly below 4k rpm), and they both have the same basic symptoms. The oil temps get too high and idle turns to cr*p.

Drive one: 75 degree ambient, 40 minutes driving. head temps vary between 250-275, never higher than 300. Oil temps climbed to 230, and once hot won't idle worth a damn.

- backed off ignition advance to stock, was running at 30 degrees. Capped vacuum retard hose, seemed to idle better without. (mistake?)

Drive two: 85 degree ambient, 25 minutes driving. Head temps vary between 250-300, never higher. Oil temp went to 250. Hot idle just plain sucked.

I know I need to get a wideband on there to figure out what the mixture is doing, but if the mixture was going lean, I'd expect to see excessive head temps right? Can the oil temp simply be a tight motor on light oil? It doesn't seem right though.

Help? Advice? Suggestions? Last thing I want to do is lunch this motor.

-Josh2
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jhadler   New Motor + Hot Running = ?   Aug 23 2009, 06:25 PM
Ferg   Hmm, it was what 97 today? I know nothing about b...   Aug 23 2009, 07:43 PM
orange914   30 mm oil pump?   Aug 23 2009, 08:23 PM
jhadler   30 mm oil pump? Melling. And a Tuna Can. -Josh...   Aug 23 2009, 09:03 PM
majkos   What shape is the oil cooler?   Aug 23 2009, 09:06 PM
CliffBraun   Personally I'd say trash the stock induction, ...   Aug 23 2009, 09:07 PM
Jake Raby   Those temps aren't high.. The CHT is lower tha...   Aug 23 2009, 09:23 PM
CliffBraun   He said in the first post he's running brad pe...   Aug 23 2009, 09:50 PM
jhadler   Thanks for the responses! Jake, glad to hear ...   Aug 24 2009, 12:14 PM
byndbad914   Jake is spot on as you would expect, you need to a...   Aug 24 2009, 06:08 PM
jhadler   Jake is spot on as you would expect, you need to ...   Aug 24 2009, 06:19 PM
orange914   you need to advance the timing back up. Retardin...   Aug 24 2009, 07:07 PM
r_towle   The vacuum retard line comes unhooked, and plugged...   Aug 24 2009, 06:17 PM
jhadler   The vacuum retard line comes unhooked, and plugge...   Aug 24 2009, 06:24 PM
Cap'n Krusty   The vacuum retard line comes unhooked, and plugge...   Aug 24 2009, 07:31 PM
r_towle   The vacuum retard line comes unhooked, and plugg...   Aug 24 2009, 08:01 PM
Dave_Darling   Just going on what DD said years back. Seems some...   Aug 25 2009, 09:29 AM
r_towle   the retard hose gets connected to the throttle bod...   Aug 24 2009, 06:25 PM
Jake Raby   Retarded timing heat soaks heads and pistons and t...   Aug 24 2009, 07:58 PM
jhadler   Retarded timing heat soaks heads and pistons and ...   Aug 25 2009, 12:00 AM
Jake Raby   What did the CR end up being? What cam does it run...   Aug 25 2009, 10:35 AM
jhadler   What did the CR end up being? What cam does it ru...   Aug 25 2009, 12:00 PM
Jake Raby   WOW! You only have .016 deck height?? The pis...   Aug 25 2009, 01:57 PM
byndbad914   ...The piston to valve clearance you state is als...   Aug 25 2009, 11:31 PM
jhadler   Okay, now I'm sweatin' bullets. These wer...   Aug 25 2009, 02:11 PM
jhadler   Waiting for my friend to call me back with actual ...   Aug 25 2009, 02:50 PM
jhadler   Okay, now he -thinks- that it was more like 0.032...   Aug 25 2009, 03:54 PM
jhadler   Well... He looked for his notes and couldn't f...   Aug 25 2009, 06:36 PM
jhadler   That being said... Should I run a head gasket, o...   Aug 25 2009, 06:49 PM
Jake Raby   So is that clearance .022 or .220?? Huge differenc...   Aug 25 2009, 07:27 PM
jhadler   So is that clearance .022 or .220?? Huge differen...   Aug 25 2009, 08:43 PM
gregrobbins   No on the head gaskets, the factory recommended ag...   Aug 25 2009, 08:20 PM
byndbad914   man, I would think 0.220" is more than plenty...   Aug 25 2009, 11:20 PM
jhadler   I think it's the deck height value that Jake j...   Aug 25 2009, 11:25 PM
jhadler   Learning experience here... cliche central. you g...   Aug 29 2009, 06:35 PM
jhadler   Yeah... Finding out that tearing down the motor is...   Oct 19 2009, 03:37 PM


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