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Gas Tank Adventures, Tank out, stripping paint... |
boxsterfan |
Sep 6 2014, 06:40 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
So, I start the process of replacing my fuel pump today (which has been relocated up front by PO). So I got the tank out and it was starting to look pretty "rusty". So I figured I woul attempt to strip it down and repaint it. I have gotten most of the paint stripped off, but how am i going to get some/all of this surface rust off?
Any good radiator shops in San Ramon area I could drop it off to have someone finish it for me this week? Note: the inside of the tank looks very good....as if someone re-did the tank sometime ago. Attached thumbnail(s) |
boxsterfan |
Sep 6 2014, 06:41 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Inside the tank.
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boxsterfan |
Sep 6 2014, 06:43 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Tank stripped (as far as I could get today). Looking closely, it has lots of surface rust that I need/want to get off. Just want to know the best/easiest way....including a local shop near San Ramon that I could drop it off at.
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Mike Bellis |
Sep 6 2014, 06:51 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
You need to find a powder coating shop. They can blast it and coat it. Paint will only look good for a short while. I think you would have to go to Livermore to find one close.
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JeffBowlsby |
Sep 6 2014, 06:55 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,809 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
There is a shop in hayward...can't recall the name...google it.
American platers??? or something like that. They paint, coat and plate. |
boxsterfan |
Sep 6 2014, 06:57 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
You need to find a powder coating shop. They can blast it and coat it. Paint will only look good for a short while. I think you would have to go to Livermore to find one close. Maas brothers in Livermore? I'm thinking of just stopping by an auto body shop to see if I can have them sand blast and paint it. All depends on the $$$ i suppose. |
Harpo |
Sep 6 2014, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
You mentioned that the PO had possibly redid the tank. I had a tank where the inside was cleaned and sealed. The heat from the powder coating process set off some kind of chemical reaction. When I opened up the tank the fumes were absolutely atrocious. It became very hard to breath and it took hours before the symptoms subsided.
Please be very careful The tank looked awesome but the insides were charred black David |
boxsterfan |
Sep 6 2014, 07:04 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Electro-Plating Specialties Incorporated
2436 American Avenue, Hayward Phone : 510 786 1881 www.eps-plating.com |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 6 2014, 07:09 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Most powder coating shops have a blaster...
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boxsterfan |
Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Being the CSOB 914 owner that I am, I was able to get my gas tank repainted today. For the light surface rust I was seeing on the tank after the stripping, I used Evaporust (from your FLAPS nearby). Actually worked very well.
Anyway, two rattle cans later and it looks good to me in gloss black. The inside of the tank is fine. No rust on the outside of the tank, and it has a fresh coat to protect it. Now I just need to get it back together. Attached thumbnail(s) |
boxsterfan |
Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
A question about the "fuel sock". So I pretty much destroyed my sock (which was in bad shape anyways). I've got an order to put together for some 30R9, 9.5 to 8mm adapters and fuel sock
However, I can't seem to get that nut off of the 9.5mm supply pipe. Yes, i have removed it from the tank itself, but is it also supposed to come apart??? The return line pipe that goes into the tank came apart no problem after I removed it from the tank. |
patssle |
Sep 7 2014, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
However, I can't seem to get that nut off of the 9.5mm supply pipe. Yes, i have removed it from the tank itself, but is it also supposed to come apart??? The return line pipe that goes into the tank came apart no problem after I removed it from the tank. Soak it with PB Blaster or something similar. That did the trick for mine. You'll need new washers for that. Test for leaks before you put everything fully back together! I had leaks and gave up on the old supply lines - went with AN fittings. |
boxsterfan |
Sep 7 2014, 10:06 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
OK, I'm soaking it in WD40 for now. I have some brake cleaner too if that'll help. I'll have to run to the store from some PB Blaster.
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boxsterfan |
Oct 11 2014, 10:21 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Well, after my CSOB attempt to repaint my tank and get it installed, I am back at square one. Due to my "job" (I hate those things), I only get a chance to work on my car on the weekends.
1. Took out tank, repainted it. 2. Wait a week 3. Installed tank. Car ran, but would not shut off by turning off key. Had to pull coil wire. Degraded later in the day to a "no start". Felt the fuel lines were crimped up front due to loud pump noise. 4. Wait a week 5. Wait another week (stupid job) 6. Installed tank again (looked inside and there is rust forming everywhere. ) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Proceeded anyways, but car won't start (definitely not a fuel issue anymore as lines are great and not crimped.) Issues now: 1. Rust in tank. Going to have to send it off to be boiled, blasted and powdercoated I guess. Sucks cuz the tank was 99.999999999999% perfect inside. 2. Supply line leaks at the tank. Too many do's and undo's of the crush washer. And finding those washers alone is a needle in a haystack according to my searches. Can anyone advise where i can find them (without having to buy a whole new sock also? 3. And the car still won't start. Probably blew my pertronix pulling the coil wire. I'm going to to just leave the car on jackstands now and work on everything else including a master cylinder replacement (and other brake related do-it-while-your-in-there tasks), fix leaky trans at axle joints and speedo gear, cleanup rust spots as much as I can (rear firewall where the engine side pad was, front trunk channels, front trunk floor spots and couple spots in the cowls). The car is a driver and I had no intention of stripping her do wn to nothing for another 3-5 years. At this point she's a sitter rather than a driver at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) |
MartyYeoman |
Oct 11 2014, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,527 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
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Harpo |
Oct 12 2014, 05:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
I believe that both rotary and racer Chris have fuel socks and crush washers
David |
bdstone914 |
Oct 12 2014, 06:28 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,744 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I bought a bunch of extra crush washers from rotary 914. They are about $1 a pair. I just cleaned up a tank inside with evaporust.
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mepstein |
Oct 12 2014, 07:26 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,707 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
buy a gallon or 2 of apple cider vinegar. pour in tank. Slosh around for a day or 2. drain. Rust should be gone. Either hook up tank and immediately fill tank with gas or slosh a can of marvel mystery oil into tank and pour out excess before you reinstall tank.
Light surface rust might only need an hour or 2 of the vinegar wash to get rid of rust inside of tank. |
cary |
Oct 12 2014, 08:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've been in about the same spot for a couple weeks. I thought my return tube was leaking. Its been sitting with a good application of Teflon thread sealant for a couple weeks. Installed it yesterday and got a big drip of gas in my eye ......Dandy
After closer inspection ............. pin hole in tank So I Googled fuel tank repair. Lots on cleaning with apple cider vinegar. Lots on don't use JB weld. I'm going to try the Permatex epoxy stuff for a short term fix. Pulled out my other 73 tank, too rusty. It's been out of the car eight years. |
mepstein |
Oct 12 2014, 09:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,707 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Vinegar is cheap, works great and no noxious fumes or hazmats. If your not satisfied with your tanks paint job, I would take it to a body shop for a coat of epoxy.
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