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> Looking for 6 conversion info, The wife gave me the green light
jmill
post Nov 12 2009, 02:39 PM
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I guess I'm old school where induction is concerned. I understand carbs and MFI. You don't need a degree in electronics to tune or fix them. You just need to be mechanically inclined. Plus carbs or MFI are period correct for the vision I have for the car.
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:19 AM
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I did mine a few years ago. Yes the parts are expsnsive but if you look around you can find bargins. I used the Patrick bar and I have not had problems. I am running a 3.0 with 40mm PMO's. I had the dist recurved at I.A.E. in Detroit. Barry is great to work with. I also used a Patrick modified oil cooler with AN fitting. Stock oil tank. Runs great and is a lot of fun on the track. Next is bigger wheels and tires, hard to keep up with 205/50 15 in the corners.
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post Nov 13 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:33 AM) *

I would sell off what you have, combine that with the "Honey" Money, and buy either a Real 914-6 (HotRod or no) or an already completed -6 Conversion. If you do Due Diligence, you can buy alot of car right now. Plus you could drive it Now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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I intially told you this.


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If you start down this rabbit hole, I suggest that you never total up the receipts. If you total them BEFORE you finish the six conversion, you will not finish it, ever. If you total it afterword, you will kick yourself every time you drive the car.



Then Clay comes along and makes me do the Mental Math - You Bastard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Go Back to my Plan A; Buy somebody else's car

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post Nov 13 2009, 08:47 PM
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unless it just that YOU want the pride in going all the little things involved in a conversion. then it's not about money, tho
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post Nov 13 2009, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Nov 13 2009, 08:47 PM) *

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Go Back to my Plan A; Buy somebody else's car

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unless it just that YOU want the pride in going all the little things involved in a conversion. then it's not about money, tho



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I think I already said this... but in a long winded fashion.........
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post Nov 14 2009, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 11 2009, 10:37 PM) *

Here is what I would do if I were going to build a small motor..

Start with a sand cast aluminum case (68 or older).

Get a 2.2S crank and rods.

2.7S pistons and cylinders.

2.7 S heads drilled for twin plug.

Turbo oil pump.

Do all the recommended case mods.

906 cams.

MFI with either high butterfly or slide valve stacks.

Twin plug distributor.

It would look something like this......



What you get is a 2.5 short stroke screamer that wont pull down low, but will really come on strong when you get it on the cams.....


How about with webers till I get a MS twin plug system set up..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Nov 14 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 13 2009, 11:01 PM) *

QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Nov 13 2009, 08:47 PM) *

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Go Back to my Plan A; Buy somebody else's car

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unless it just that YOU want the pride in going all the little things involved in a conversion. then it's not about money, tho



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I think I already said this... but in a long winded fashion.........


For me it's all about the build. Buying someone elses conversion just doesn't do it for me. I'm sure your correct that I'd be money ahead. It's just not an option for me.
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post Nov 14 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Nov 10 2009, 08:46 PM) *

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I should also ask the average conversion cost. blink.gif

I think the average cost was somewhere between expensive and divorce... so you have a little play there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


That is some funny cheet man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:17 PM
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I'm about 7.5k deep into my conversion and almost completed. It has taken a complete year, patience, awesome finds, and every cash side job I could find but I'm nearly there.

Do it.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:27 PM
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I'm going to do it. One year is out for me. I'm thinking more like 3 to 5 years. Until I get heat in the garage working in the winter is out of the question. Winter up here is at least 6 months long. Buying the furnace for the garage is taking a backseat to buying the 6. I gotta have my priorities. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(jmill @ Nov 21 2009, 11:27 PM) *

I'm going to do it. One year is out for me. I'm thinking more like 3 to 5 years. Until I get heat in the garage working in the winter is out of the question. Winter up here is at least 6 months long. Buying the furnace for the garage is taking a backseat to buying the 6. I gotta have my priorities. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


3-5 years is totally reasonable. Florida is nice in the winters. Just remember, it will start with the engine and continue to every other facet of the vehicle.... because hey why not, I'm already doing this much, right?

Good luck, let us know if you have any more questions.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:56 PM
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I have a 2.8 Twin plug, recently finished. Nearly $20,000 invested in Build of engine.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:58 PM
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I guess I'm old school where induction is concerned. I understand carbs and MFI. You don't need a degree in electronics to tune or fix them. You just need to be mechanically inclined. Plus carbs or MFI are period correct for the vision I have for the car.


Here's a good example of MFI, a 2.8 with lots of down low Torque !
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post Nov 21 2009, 10:41 PM
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Here's a good example of MFI, a 2.8 with lots of down low Torque !
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Thats Alan Johnson's X play toy now a center seater
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Bang for the buck modern day: 3.2

If your old school MFI
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post Nov 22 2009, 12:01 AM
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Out of the blue the wife gave me permission to spend a bunch of cash on the teener


She's having an affair.
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post Nov 22 2009, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Nov 22 2009, 12:01 AM) *

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She's having an affair.

more time to work on the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 22 2009, 07:55 AM
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My 2 cents. I am probably not a good example on how to do a six conversion because this is my first and I've never driven a 914 before diving in so warning right up front. I purchased a 75 roller with the plan to do as much as possible by myself to save money ( insert laughs here ) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . On 12/1/2006 my chassis was delivered by the seller. No engine,transmission or wheels. But came with a fair amount of parts. I've never taken on a project like this but I am a DIYer in general. I had visions of creating a M471/GT clone. I wasn't even thinking about an engine for the first year other than I knew I was doing a six. So my theory was get the chassis as up to date as possible to handle whatever power I was going with. That meant front and rear suspension completely gone over and elephant racing poly bronze suspension bushings. Rear swing arms were boxed for strength. Front struts were replaced with 911 3 inch mounting ear for 911 M brake calipers front and rear. 20mm vented rotors front and rear with 911 ebrake. I added a 19mm master cylinder and a 19mm adjustable front sway bar. Stock 914 torsion bars with rear Koni shocks and 140 lb. springs. Every nut,bolt,washer ect. were cleaned up or replaced. So that took me thru the first year basically working weekends only. Then I turned to the body. I only was going to do this project if I went with metal flares it's the look I wanted. I was lucky enough to get in on the AA group buy of flares. Believe me lining up and then cutting off good body parts was a little un-nerving at first but once you're cutting keep going ! I welded the flares myself and it was a great learning experience. All that have seen these in person comment what a great job I did. I prepped and primed the flares and was done until final paint. I then directed my efforts on an engine and transmission. Found a pristine 901 tranny for $100.00 so that was checked off the list. Then found a 1978 911SC 3.0 in N.C. for a decent price ( $3000.00 ) and purchased that. I am familiar with the 3.0 because I have one in my SC. Very strong motor with few problems that makes good power and torque. Rich Johnson motor mount,throttle cable setup,oil cooler mods and I'm good to go. I am now in the final stretch of my 3 year resto and I've spent aprox. $25,000.00 so I am way over my original budget. But the pride I feel knowing I did it myself is priceless. Sorry for the long reply but my point is if you have the time and not too concerned about the money do the resto yourself. Good luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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Here's a good example of MFI, a 2.8 with lots of down low Torque !
Marty

Thats Alan Johnson's X play toy now a center seater


This is when POC racer Ron Mistak owned it. It's a real nice toy !
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