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Custom Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24,598 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE Young first driver in a 914 is scary. Maybe a bigger car for her safety will be better. Might want to think about it first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I looked at alot of crashed and wrecked 914's prior to giving my son a 914. The passenger compartment holds up really quite well. Ensure you have the later body doors....those are key. If you doubt me, look up "rocket" and his restoration (and demise) of his purple car. He hit a tree very hard and walked away with nothing more than a bruised ego...car it totalled. She will be fine. Go for a retro interior with some of the early plaid on the seats... Rich |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
I have seen the aftermarket seats with purple accents. They also come with the holes for the 4 point harness. My first car was a ford pinto (I obviously did not blow up) and everyone told my parents how stupid they were for buying me the car. It wasn't the 67 lemans I wanted, but it got me evrywhere I wanted to go safely! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
With a new driver, can't you get her an old Volvo wagen till she learns how to drive? A good Porsche friend had his son go through a nice 914 and a 914-6 before he got through his early driving years.
Luckily, both cars protected well during the crashes, and his son was fine. However, the cars were toast and not repairable. They're not making any more of these anymore, so there should be a bit of preservation desire in our group. It just seems that it takes a while for new drivers to "get" it. When my son had his first accident (in a Volve 245 Turbo wagen), I made him actually repair the fender/headlight assembly to see what was involved. He's a much better driver now! |
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Ask hot shoe914 how a 914 holds up in a frontal crash.....He had as bad of a crash in a 914 as I've seen....his nephew got a broke collar bone from the seat belt. Maybe he has pics to post.....
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,512 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I would agree the later doors are the ticket. Also the old seat belts suck. Install a harness bar and a 4 point. You can have terry cloth padded covers made for the belts in Purple. Install them over the belts with velcro. I would avoid the cage. Too much of a chance of a unprotected head or limbs contacting the bars. Unless she is going to drive with a helmet everyday..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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on ramp passer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None ![]() |
Ask hot shoe914 how a 914 holds up in a frontal crash.....He had as bad of a crash in a 914 as I've seen....his nephew got a broke collar bone from the seat belt. Maybe he has pics to post..... You mean this one Jt? I took the broken collar bone from the seatbelt, nephew took a dash to the side of his head! ![]() ![]() |
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
One of our family friends 19yr/old daughter was killed in a car crash, hit the shoulder and flipped into a ditch.
She was driving a full size GM SUV. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
I concede...air bags, crumple zones, ABS and traction control were all useless in that situation. Now...run that SUV head on into a 914...
One of our family friends 19yr/old daughter was killed in a car crash, hit the shoulder and flipped into a ditch. She was driving a full size GM SUV. |
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
I concede...air bags, crumple zones, ABS and traction control were all useless in that situation. Now...run that SUV head on into a 914... One of our family friends 19yr/old daughter was killed in a car crash, hit the shoulder and flipped into a ditch. She was driving a full size GM SUV. At 60mph you're still both dead. How about run the SUV into a dumptruck...back of a semi... I've see a lot of flipped SUV's...It's almost that season here. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
I concede...you're right...a 40 year old design in a 2,000 pound car is equally safe in a head one with a modern 5,000 pound SUV. When you're right you're right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
I concede...air bags, crumple zones, ABS and traction control were all useless in that situation. Now...run that SUV head on into a 914... One of our family friends 19yr/old daughter was killed in a car crash, hit the shoulder and flipped into a ditch. She was driving a full size GM SUV. At 60mph you're still both dead. |
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Ask hot shoe914 how a 914 holds up in a frontal crash.....He had as bad of a crash in a 914 as I've seen....his nephew got a broke collar bone from the seat belt. Maybe he has pics to post..... You mean this one Jt? I took the broken collar bone from the seatbelt, nephew took a dash to the side of his head! ![]() ![]() Yes, that crash Don....sorry I had my injuries wrong....It's been a long time since that happened...Maybe you can tell the story....It does show how well the passenger's compartment holds up in a frontal.... |
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Its alive ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,782 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
I concede...you're right...a 40 year old design in a 2,000 pound car is equally safe in a head one with a modern 5,000 pound SUV. When you're right you're right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I know a guy who almost died when he got hit head on; he was driving a newer dump truck. Even the largest vehicles can still allow you to be hurt. That said, I've had my 914 for 7 years. Its been a DD for the last 2.5 or so and I'm only 21. To be safe you just need to learn how to drive defensively. People aren't trying to kill you; they just don't pay attention. You only need to learn to stay away from careless people on the roads, but that is really true in any car. I would feel totally comfortable giving a 16 year old (provided they aren't stupid reckless) a 914. The reckless kid will hurt themselves or more likely others in any car; I feel that the marque doesn't really matter. Sorry for continuing the hijack. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like the above suggestion of Wet Okole seat covers. They'll both protect the seats and look cool. Carpeting with colored edging would also look pretty good IMO. The best part is all of those things protect the car and are still subtle enough touches to make a difference without going overboard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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I. I. R. C. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,735 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
The best color for a new teenage driver is AIRBAG!
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
http://www.wetokole.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?S...-914-Galery1971
This is what I was talking about seat covers. Only change the blue for purple. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
It's sooooo hard arguing with this kind of logic. Of course people have gotten killed in large vehicles. That's your rationale? Do you realize that cars have safety factor ratings? Of course defensive driving helps...that's a given. My DD has two wheels. I have yet to die while riding it while folks in Volvos have died...go figure. If this is the argument, I've really gotta stop, because it's nonsensical. The marque really doesn't matter? You're serious?
For your consideration...eliminate the marque factor...a drunken driver runs into you head on (happens here in Maryland all the time...not sure where you live). Which car are you more likely to survive in, a 40 year old 914, or a new Cayman? Please...somebody who understands engineering advances in the past 40 years, feel free to chime in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I concede...you're right...a 40 year old design in a 2,000 pound car is equally safe in a head one with a modern 5,000 pound SUV. When you're right you're right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I know a guy who almost died when he got hit head on; he was driving a newer dump truck. Even the largest vehicles can still allow you to be hurt. That said, I've had my 914 for 7 years. Its been a DD for the last 2.5 or so and I'm only 21. To be safe you just need to learn how to drive defensively. People aren't trying to kill you; they just don't pay attention. You only need to learn to stay away from careless people on the roads, but that is really true in any car. I would feel totally comfortable giving a 16 year old (provided they aren't stupid reckless) a 914. The reckless kid will hurt themselves or more likely others in any car; I feel that the marque doesn't really matter. Sorry for continuing the hijack. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like the above suggestion of Wet Okole seat covers. They'll both protect the seats and look cool. Carpeting with colored edging would also look pretty good IMO. The best part is all of those things protect the car and are still subtle enough touches to make a difference without going overboard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
I gave my 16yo one and he smacked it up. Boy was I stupid.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
I'm sure some 20 year old will chime in and say that it could also happen to a 40 year old. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
I gave my 16yo one and he smacked it up. Boy was I stupid.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
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The Viper Blue 914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
To be safe you just need to learn how to drive defensively. People aren't trying to kill you; they just don't pay attention. You only need to learn to stay away from careless people on the roads, but that is really true in any car. In the spirit of returning to the thread title, I think we can all accept the above post as being the key. SO let's just say that this 16 year old is an expert in defensive driving (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . I like the idea of purple seat covers and accessories. So when she gets her tickets and isn't allowed to drive anymore, you can drive it around without fear of embarrassment. All because of the fact that guys in purple cars aren't like us normal folk... Not that there's anything wrong with that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) |
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The Viper Blue 914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
To be safe you just need to learn how to drive defensively. People aren't trying to kill you; they just don't pay attention. You only need to learn to stay away from careless people on the roads, but that is really true in any car. In the spirit of returning to the thread title, I think we can all accept the above post as being the key. SO let's just say that this 16 year old is an expert in defensive driving (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . I like the idea of purple seat covers and accessories. So when she gets her tickets and isn't allowed to drive anymore, you can drive it around without fear of embarrassment. All because of the fact that guys in purple cars aren't like us normal folk... Not that there's anything wrong with that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) And just to make sure I'm not misunderstood, the comment that "guys in purple cars aren't like us normal folk" refers to an obvious case of being color-blind. Because, no normal person likes a purple car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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914 Rudiments ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
It's sooooo hard arguing with this kind of logic. Of course people have gotten killed in large vehicles. That's your rationale? Do you realize that cars have safety factor ratings? Of course defensive driving helps...that's a given. My DD has two wheels. I have yet to die while riding it while folks in Volvos have died...go figure. If this is the argument, I've really gotta stop, because it's nonsensical. The marque really doesn't matter? You're serious? For your consideration...eliminate the marque factor...a drunken driver runs into you head on (happens here in Maryland all the time...not sure where you live). Which car are you more likely to survive in, a 40 year old 914, or a new Cayman? I like your logic much better, ken.....keep the lowest horse powered engine in the car,give her the keys and pray about it every now and then!! BTW...my girl friend was born in Cumberland,in fact her mother and brother still reside there, how close is that to you? We'll be visiting there soon,maybe we can hook-up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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