HELP. trouble starting 72 1.7L Options

[r_towle]

It looks like you have points.
It also appears that you have a condensor on the left side of the distributor like its supposed to be.
I also see a green wire coming up to the negative side of the coil like its supposed to be.

So, take a few pics from farther out so we can see what fuel system you have and please try to take a picture of the computer (supposed to be between the battery and the firewall...)

Need those pics to help you with any fuel issues.

Do you have a timing light?

Rich

[forzamotorsport9]

It looks like you have points.
It also appears that you have a condensor on the left side of the distributor like its supposed to be.
I also see a green wire coming up to the negative side of the coil like its supposed to be.

So, take a few pics from farther out so we can see what fuel system you have and please try to take a picture of the computer (supposed to be between the battery and the firewall...)

Need those pics to help you with any fuel issues.

Do you have a timing light?

Rich

take photos of the lines and and pump? that can be done. and not at the moment but i have acess to one i think lol

[forzamotorsport9]

bump

i should probably include that the car has not been driven in five years. ill take pics of the lines and pump today

[r_towle]

We need pics of the whole engine bay...no more closeups.
Take it from both directions so we can see what fuel system you have.

Rich

[kenshapiro2002]

Guys...I'm low (very low) on the expert pole here, but if he redid the fuel lines, why are we suspecting electrical? The green wire? Could be anything a PO changed , removed...

ok i took the distributor cap of and its the kind that has the four points i think...the points are on top of the distributor cap right? they arnt visable from the outside but if you look inside the on the top there are four points, if that helps, they are copper i believe? could be wrong...direct me from here.



what other things should i check btw if its not running? ill take a video of the car engine bay when i try the motor tries to turn over once i get eveything back together

im starting to get pissed off....all it was supposed to need to fix the fuel leak, which has been done

[forzamotorsport9]

We need pics of the whole engine bay...no more closeups.
Take it from both directions so we can see what fuel system you have.

Rich

ill take some high resolution photos of my engine bay right after i post this.

any other things i should conside trying? like i said it has not been started in five years...

ill take a pic of the fuel pump too.

[kenshapiro2002]

Never mind...missed that part.

We need pics of the whole engine bay...no more closeups.
Take it from both directions so we can see what fuel system you have.

Rich

ill take some high resolution photos of my engine bay right after i post this.

any other things i should conside trying? like i said it has not been started in five years...

ill take a pic of the fuel pump too.

[r_towle]

We just need to do a few things.
One, you need to learn how to diagnose...that requires patience and some simple steps.

Lets make sure all the parts are there...If you have EFI...I dont see the computer..

Lets make sure you are not just spinning your wheels here.
Post the pics...we will get it going.

Rich

[silverteener]

I'm going to see him tomorrow night. I'm no expert on these but I've had enough problems on my own I should be able to get him in the right direction. I'm going to check and make sure the fuel pump is working first and see if we have fuel at the injectors, then we'll see if we have spark. What do you guys think about it sitting for 5 years. I know I put some oil in the cylinders when I tried starting mine after 9 years of sitting. Hopefully it has been cranked over too much. Should be interesting tomorrow. I have only seen 1 other teener around here and only saw it once. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[forzamotorsport9]

I'm going to see him tomorrow night. I'm no expert on these but I've had enough problems on my own I should be able to get him in the right direction. I'm going to check and make sure the fuel pump is working first and see if we have fuel at the injectors, then we'll see if we have spark. What do you guys think about it sitting for 5 years. I know I put some oil in the cylinders when I tried starting mine after 9 years of sitting. Hopefully it has been cranked over too much. Should be interesting tomorrow. I have only seen 1 other teener around here and only saw it once. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

i disconnected the fuel lines after the pump and they were both bone dry, so something is wrong with the pump, it doesnt make any sound either, and i will leave one plug out to test for spark tomorrow. i took some good pics tonight of the engine bay and fuel pump and will post them when im done writing my english paper.

call me tomorrow or PM about what time you wanna come over

[silverteener]

don't worry about spark right now. it does no good if there is no fuel. Don't turn it over anymore til we can see what you have. I'll probably be over around 7. Pm me your address. see you tomorrow.

[forzamotorsport9]

don't worry about spark right now. it does no good if there is no fuel. Don't turn it over anymore til we can see what you have. I'll probably be over around 7. Pm me your address. see you tomorrow.

sounds good man

[forzamotorsport9]

ok here are picture of the engine bay and fuel pump

EDIT, they werent good, ill take some tomorrow morning

time for a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) , this damn car not running isnt helping me quit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[forzamotorsport9]

ok so i woke up this morning and walked out to the garage to see a good amount of oil and gas had leaked onto the floor from the fuel pump area.

it was mostly gas.

anyideas?

[silverteener]

did you reconnect the lines to the fuel pump?

[kenshapiro2002]

Maybe I missed this part, but...did you clean out the tank and add fresh fuel? If not, that crap on the floor isn't even gas any more...more like varnish. Probably won't start the car, and might even keep it from starting until you rebuild the carbs. What did you do with the fuel filter(s)?

[Gint]

I'd disconnect the fuel pump and get it out where you can work on it safely. Put new hoses on it. Put the suction end in a can of fresh gas (not the crap in the 914's fuel tank), and the output(s) in back into the same tank. Run a couple of wires from the hot and ground of a 12v battery and test it. It's probably dried up.

Oh, and be careful not to blow yourself up!

[914_teener]

We just need to do a few things.
One, you need to learn how to diagnose...that requires patience and some simple steps.

Lets make sure all the parts are there...If you have EFI...I dont see the computer..

Lets make sure you are not just spinning your wheels here.
Post the pics...we will get it going.

Rich

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I would follow this advice.....otherwise you might be chasing your tail. Ya gotta learn too!

Post the pics so that everyone knows what is there and what you have. Otherwise this thread may confuse you more..... and kind of pointless (pun intended). I would listen to Rich.

Rob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[forzamotorsport9]

tank isnt clean but its not that rusty and there is new fuel in it.

more instructions testing the pump would be great

and of course i hooked the lines up!!! lol they have been fine for the last like five days idk whats wrong with the fuel pump but shes coming off tonight

[silverteener]

if you take that pump off you better have a bucket to catch all the fuel. but better yet, just wait til I get there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)