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> What is everybody using for fuel lines?, that is avaliable locally
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post Nov 20 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 06:42 AM) *

Don't wimp out on this...if you were born metric you;re exactly the one to answer...how would you go from a 10mm nipple to a 3/8" nipple? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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What would you do?

I was born metric so i'm probably the wrong guy to ask that question as you will not like my answer ...

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post Nov 20 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:42 AM) *

Don't wimp out on this...if you were born metric you;re exactly the one to answer...how would you go from a 10mm nipple to a 3/8" nipple? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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What would you do?

I was born metric so i'm probably the wrong guy to ask that question as you will not like my answer ...


I would not use a 3/8" nipple in the first place.

Try some ice cubes. I hear they make your nipples bigger ...
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post Nov 20 2009, 12:22 PM
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10mm is .394, 3/8 is .375. Too much stress to put a 3/8 line on a 10MM nipple. I would turn down the 10MM to 3/8 on a lathe if you can. If thats what you need.
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post Nov 20 2009, 01:11 PM
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So, you wouldn't use Chris' Stainless Steel 3/8" lines? Me confused.

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:42 AM) *

Don't wimp out on this...if you were born metric you;re exactly the one to answer...how would you go from a 10mm nipple to a 3/8" nipple? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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What would you do?

I was born metric so i'm probably the wrong guy to ask that question as you will not like my answer ...


I would not use a 3/8" nipple in the first place.

Try some ice cubes. I hear they make your nipples bigger ...
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post Nov 20 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 11:11 AM) *

So, you wouldn't use Chris' Stainless Steel 3/8" lines? Me confused.

If there was a metric alternative to his lines then no, i wouldn't use his 3/8" lines.

They are the best aftermarket lines out there that i have seen so far, but at the end of the day, i still hate to put anything in my car that's not metric.
Bugs the hell out of me.

Close might be "close enough" for you. For me, a close miss is still a miss.

You think it doesn't matter, i think it does matter.
You voice your opinion, i voice my opinion.
You do what you want, i do what i want.

See where this is going?
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post Nov 20 2009, 01:51 PM
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You have this all wrong...this is not an argument oh sensitive metric man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I sincerely bow to your greater knowledge. Every chance I get I confess to my "rookie" status with this stuff. I have asked repeatedly, "What would you do", and you have yet to guide me? You just keep defending metric-ness and reinforcing that close doesn't count. Again...what would you do (unless you simply won't tell me)? The nipple coming out of the tank is metric...Chris' lines are not. I'm asking your solution, not championing SAE over metric, or closeness over exactness...really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)


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So, you wouldn't use Chris' Stainless Steel 3/8" lines? Me confused.

If there was a metric alternative to his lines then no, i wouldn't use his 3/8" lines.

They are the best aftermarket lines out there that i have seen so far, but at the end of the day, i still hate to put anything in my car that's not metric.
Bugs the hell out of me.

Close might be "close enough" for you. For me, a close miss is still a miss.

You think it doesn't matter, i think it does matter.
You voice your opinion, i voice my opinion.
You do what you want, i do what i want.

See where this is going?
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 11:51 AM) *

You have this all wrong...this is not an argument oh sensitive metric man

22.8 centimeters just sounds bigger than 9 inches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I know, i'm shallow ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyways, the cleanest install in your case would be to part from your metric ways. There are a few threads about fitting US standard outlets to our tanks. That way, you can add a exact match outlet to the tank.
Do a search here for standard sized fuel tank outlets.

Otherwise,
if you have to adapt from smaller to larger, get a hose that's a close fit for both. Chris's fuel lines come with flared ends, so you get something to clamp to, which helps.
Then there are hoses that taper down.
If the difference in size is too large, that's the better choice rather than trying to stretch/compress a hose on a fitting.

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post Nov 20 2009, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 12:51 PM) *
I have asked repeatedly, "What would you do", and you have yet to guide me?

I think he answered your question. Or perhaps I'm just missing the point of this "argument".

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So, you wouldn't use Chris' Stainless Steel 3/8" lines? Me confused.
If there was a metric alternative to his lines then no, i wouldn't use his 3/8" lines
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:44 PM
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ATTAAndy...that's what I wanted. I'll try the search (betting I won't hit pay dirt, but I'll try) for US standard outlets for our tanks. Hoses that taper down...from US to metric? Really?


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You have this all wrong...this is not an argument oh sensitive metric man

22.8 centimeters just sounds bigger than 9 inches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I know, i'm shallow ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyways, the cleanest install in your case would be to part from your metric ways. There are a few threads about fitting US standard outlets to our tanks. That way, you can add a exact match outlet to the tank.
Do a search here for standard sized fuel tank outlets.

Otherwise,
if you have to adapt from smaller to larger, get a hose that's a close fit for both. Chris's fuel lines come with flared ends, so you get something to clamp to, which helps.
Then there are hoses that taper down.
If the difference in size is too large, that's the better choice rather than trying to stretch/compress a hose on a fitting.

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post Nov 20 2009, 02:46 PM
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That's not an answer. That being said, I now have an answer and a search to do.

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 12:51 PM) *
I have asked repeatedly, "What would you do", and you have yet to guide me?

I think he answered your question. Or perhaps I'm just missing the point of this "argument".

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So, you wouldn't use Chris' Stainless Steel 3/8" lines? Me confused.
[b]If there was a metric alternative to his lines then no, i wouldn't use his 3/8" lines[/b]


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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 12:44 PM) *

I'll try the search (betting I won't hit pay dirt, but I'll try) for US standard outlets for our tanks.

Here Yugo:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72023

I searched for:
+fuel +tank +threaded

and result #6 was the thread i had been looking for ...
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Thanks! I used +US+standard+Fuel and got bupkiss. Well...I got all of the threads I'd already read. Thanks again. I know you're a "Give a man a fish..." person, but I;m just not that good at the search thing yet.

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I'll try the search (betting I won't hit pay dirt, but I'll try) for US standard outlets for our tanks.

Here Yugo:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72023

I searched for:
+fuel +tank +threaded

and result #6 was the thread i had been looking for ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 20 2009, 02:25 PM) *

If there was a metric alternative to his lines...

For all intents and purposes I could call my lines metric and there would be little room for argument. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
My caliper measurements indicate that what I am using is so close to the factory sizes as to be insignificant, and the id is actually bigger than the original plastic lines.
8mm=.3152", about 2 1/2 thousandths of an inch different than 5/16".
9.5mm=.3743", less than a thousandth from 3/8".
3/8" and 5/16" id hoses fit very well on the fuel line connections of our cars.
I just measured a fuel tank supply "nipple" at .388"od. There should be no trouble fitting a 3/8"id hose onto one.
The return "nipple" measured .318"od.
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Thanks...I know what to do now and how to feel about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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If there was a metric alternative to his lines...

For all intents and purposes I could call my lines metric and there would be little room for argument. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
My caliper measurements indicate that what I am using is so close to the factory sizes as to be insignificant, and the id is actually bigger than the original plastic lines.
8mm=.3152", about 2 1/2 thousandths of an inch different than 5/16".
9.5mm=.3743", less than a thousandth from 3/8".
3/8" and 5/16" id hoses fit very well on the fuel line connections of our cars.
I just measured a fuel tank supply "nipple" at .388"od. There should be no trouble fitting a 3/8"id hose onto one.
The return "nipple" measured .318"od.

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3/8" and 5/16" id hoses fit very well on the fuel line connections of our cars.

Ken, thats what i did, exactly per Chris.
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Chris Foley Products and be done with it ...why fuck around with junk
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I've had his lines for a month or so...the question was about attachment at the tank, and whether a 10mm fuel tank outlet can safely handle a 3/8" hose. There are differing opinions.

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Chris Foley Products and be done with it ...why fuck around with junk

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Chris Foley Products and be done with it ...why fuck around with junk


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Got 8000 miles on my car with CFR lines and metric FI hose, no problems. Use FI clamps like the ones on the left. Don't use the ones on the right.

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Nov 20 2009, 05:44 PM) *

I've had his lines for a month or so...the question was about attachment at the tank, and whether a 10mm fuel tank outlet can safely handle a 3/8" hose. There are differing opinions.

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Chris Foley Products and be done with it ...why fuck around with junk



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Gotta box full...ready to go.

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Chris Foley Products and be done with it ...why fuck around with junk


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Got 8000 miles on my car with CFR lines and metric FI hose, no problems. Use FI clamps like the ones on the left. Don't use the ones on the right.

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