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[naro914]

obviously I meant local to where you're going.
Point is, if you're going to have a party in someone elses backyard, shouldn't you at least consult with them before you schedule it? Why did you bother asking me in the first place?

Yes, I hate that all of us that LIVE here are going to probably miss it. I was really looking forward to it since we had such a great time in Alabama. I thought the weekend in September was perfect, it didn't conflict with anything.

[scotty b]

Can't we all just get along ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)

[naro914]

sorry Scotty. It's just that when the idea was brought up to me, I thought it was great and we discussed specific dates that would and wouldn't work. I said that October was a very bad month because there is so much going on in this part of the country that it will definitely conflict with too much, so we settled on September. With that knowledge, I started talking it up to all the 914 owners in the area. We had some really great ideas of things we could help out with and I got a bunch of people that have never done anything with the 914 group very excited. There is a collector here that has one of the Brumos 914 GT's that he said he would try to bring out...stuff like that.

I'm just a little upset that we finally have an event close enough for many of the Carolinas and other Southeast people can attend, and nobody bothered to see if the timing worked out.

I would assume being a PCA event you would need to consult the local PCA region to get them to sponsor it or something right? or is that not necessary? Not sure with SIG events....

Look, I'm sure this is going to be a great event, and yes, part of me is just pissed that we probably won't make it. I was at John's yesterday and he was very disappointed too. He's never been to a 914 gathering, even though his #1 passion is 914's. He has a long history of racing them, back when they were new from the factory. He's raced with Hurley Haywood and was good friends with all the Brumos guys. At one point, we counted 19 914's at his shop (some were just old chassis, but they count)

The Dragon is a great run, as are a lot of other roads there. If any of you can make it, I strongly encourage you to be there....

[kenshapiro2002]

As somebody who has organized events like this, Ill chime in...places like the "Tail" aren't in anybody's back yard...it's a national treasure. Besides, it's an event for everybody who wants to attend, not just locals. As to not conflicting with other events? Impossible. You try to avoid the "biggies" but even that is almost impossible because it's all subjective. That being said, the event planner always gets grief from some direction..."No good deed goes unpunished". One of the best lessons anybody ever taught me is that when a leader (or planner in this situation), does anything, 15% of the folks applaud, 15% decry it, and 70% don't give a rat's ass.

obviously I meant local to where you're going.
Point is, if you're going to have a party in someone elses backyard, shouldn't you at least consult with them before you schedule it? Why did you bother asking me in the first place?

Yes, I hate that all of us that LIVE here are going to probably miss it. I was really looking forward to it since we had such a great time in Alabama. I thought the weekend in September was perfect, it didn't conflict with anything.

[tat2dphreak]

ever tryied to get 10 people to come together on the same day? it's hard... everyone has their own things going and no one is clairvoyant to pick the dates that works... well, imagine that only it's potentially 100+ people, and instead of one meal, it's 4 days, travel, lodging, and planning things to do during those days... then make it more complicated and say "it can't be this week or this week because other, similar events are planned... "

what hot shoe and co. planned was a huge undertaking and I for one am grateful for the time put into it to make it as feasible as possible... I hope to make it. but if I can't, I hope everyone else has a great time, and shows appreciation to all those who put forth the effort to plan it. I'm sure if there WAS such a thing as a perfect time, you guys would have found it...

[Jake Raby]

Logistics suck- thats usually why I never try to plan any event with a group of people.. Out of every group 10% of the people will be whiners, or they'll just bitch about something. The first mistake is trying to please everyone! Its much better to plan the day and let the whiners stay at home rather than trying to accommodate them to only have them bitch later..

The only time I have in October is the 15-17, but don't try to work around my schedule as there is lots more to worry about than a stop by my place..

We are having a VW/ Porsche show here the first weekend in June along with a dyno day so some people could attend that IF my available dates don't work out.

[7275914911]

The only time I have in October is the 15-17...
We are having a VW/ Porsche show here the first weekend in June along with a dyno day so some people could attend that IF my available dates don't work out.

I believe those are the dates of the event....damn good luck that could be!!

And the first weekend in June might just make a perfect time for tour Pre Runs??

Ken

[naro914]

Guys,
I think you're missing the point. Common courtesy, not to mention PCA ettiquette, dictates if you are going to run a PCA sanctioned event (which a SIG event is) it's a good idea to contact the local region, or at least the Zone Rep, to make sure it does not conflict with anything else going on in the region or surrounding area. Holding your own event in your own area is different.

No, you can't please everyone, trust me I know. After 4 years as a Region President, organizing many events in and out of Carolinas Region, organizing Porsche Parade in Charlotte, and now Zone Rep, I understand conflicts. My point is that before you do something in someone elses area, it's a good idea to get buy in from them first.

[Jake Raby]

Cool. Like I said, if it works it works, if it doesn't we have June. Conflicts with people are something I hate, thats usually why I stay as far away from organizing events or having anything to do with it as I can..

I have no tolerance for pansy ass whiners that look for something to bitch about :-) (There are more and more of those people in our circles these days)

[bandjoey]

OK. Let's get a 2011 Calendar started NOW so that year works. There has to be a central place or person that can start the scheduling today.

I'll be moving my dates around to get there, although it'll mean I have to get my car back on jackstands in January, so it'll be ready for that cross country drive in October. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Jake, just open the garage door and put a yellow rope on anything you don't want touched, if you can't be there in person..I'm not worthy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

[zymurgist]

ever tryied to get 10 people to come together on the same day? it's hard... everyone has their own things going and no one is clairvoyant to pick the dates that works...

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[D1A3]

I helped organize the run through The Dragon a few years back for the "SouthEast Classic." These roads are always a fun drive and there are lots of different routes to take to and from.

My personal opinion is that we should try to get a drive in the spring/summer and then again in the fall. October may be the dates that get set, but September would be a much more scenic drive through that area.

I'm in for any drives on any dates that are in North Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee etc...

Just set the dates of what you are doing and let those that can attend come along if they are able or want to. I do agree though that you've got to involve the Peachstate Region if you make this an "official" PCA event.

Anyone not familiar with the area and looking or help to orgnaize this or any other drive are free to contact me. :-)

[hot_shoe914]

Guys,
I think you're missing the point. Common courtesy, not to mention PCA ettiquette, dictates if you are going to run a PCA sanctioned event (which a SIG event is) it's a good idea to contact the local region, or at least the Zone Rep, to make sure it does not conflict with anything else going on in the region or surrounding area. Holding your own event in your own area is different.

No, you can't please everyone, trust me I know. After 4 years as a Region President, organizing many events in and out of Carolinas Region, organizing Porsche Parade in Charlotte, and now Zone Rep, I understand conflicts. My point is that before you do something in someone elses area, it's a good idea to get buy in from them first.

The point is I set a date and ran it by you. I was informed that it was the same weekend as Petite leMans and that you had a DE going the following weekend.(neither being a 914 event) Therefore I went after other dates suggested in September(which I actually prefer) but unfortunately the dates I wanted were not available at the hotel so I chose what I thought was the next best thing. Once again I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) that up as it turns out it was the same weekend as the Red Rock Classic.(a 914 event) So, for the 3rd time I contacted the hotel and checked to see which dates they had available that did not interfere with the RRC or Petite LeMans or the DE. I accepted the dates they had available as they DID NOT conflict with any 914 gigs nor the two events you mentioned to me. Now, as far as NASCAR, I don't give a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) about those circle driving wimps anyways. I DID avoid the only events mentioned to me and DID check with you first. The POINT IS, the dates are set and there is no need in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) . I truely hope you and the other locals can find a way to squeeze this party into your schedules but if not, the party will still take place and there will be fun for everyone. That is all I have to say on this matter.

[D1A3]

What hotel are you looking at and where? The last time we ran the Dragon we all stayed in Helen, GA. Nice place and pretty fitting for the drive.

[kenshapiro2002]

Good King Crab at Paul's but the rest of the town is "creepy"...a fake German town in t middle of Jaw-Jah ? It's like hanging out in an amusement park! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

What hotel are you looking at and where? The last time we ran the Dragon we all stayed in Helen, GA. Nice place and pretty fitting for the drive.

[7275914911]

What hotel are you looking at and where? The last time we ran the Dragon we all stayed in Helen, GA. Nice place and pretty fitting for the drive.

It is in Vonore, TN
Smokey Mtn Region?
Hopefully Bob can still put us in contact with a local Region person so we can get waivers because yes it is a PCA sanctioned event.

[Jake Raby]

Helen isn't the town it used to be.. My shop is 5 miles away..

After the Tornado ripped through there 3 years ago it hasn't been the same town... Its not really a fake town, the majority of businesses are owned and operated by German- American families.

[kenshapiro2002]

Very touristy...Bavarian type architecture done on purpose to simulate a German town...pretty "fake" to me.

Helen isn't the town it used to be.. My shop is 5 miles away..

After the Tornado ripped through there 3 years ago it hasn't been the same town... Its not really a fake town, the majority of businesses are owned and operated by German- American families.

[bandjoey]

The average Temp for those dates is in the 50's. Everyone put the heat exchangers back on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowtorch.gif)

[7275914911]

The average Temp for those dates is in the 50's. Everyone put the heat exchangers back on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowtorch.gif)

And that temp is probaly around 1000 feet above sea level. Most of the driving will start at that elevation and take us to about 6000 feet above sea level on the Skyway.

I have left Maryville in the 60's and at the top of Skyway water was freezing on the side of rocks and the wind is merciless up there too......

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......

KP