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> Questions for a 3.0, #1 is adapting to a 901, What can I keep, what do I need? what else?
Mark Henry
post Jan 20 2010, 07:33 AM
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I have a clutch out of a 71 that I can have real cheap, should I mess with it?

Also it's sitting on the bench and it's on/in the 901 with no engine...how the hell do I get it off and out of there?

I've done my buddy's 71 a couple of times (with an engine on it) and you just spin the bearing a bit in the window, but this way the bearing has all the pressure of the clutch on it.
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I'll get a pic later.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jan 20 2010, 11:53 AM
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If I understand you correctly, just pull the flywheel/clutch disk/pressure plate package off of the shaft.

Are you into the crown again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 20 2010, 09:53 AM) *

If I understand you correctly, just pull the flywheel/clutch disk/pressure plate package off of the shaft.

That's what i thought, but what do i know?
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:06 PM
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Nope, haven't had a fall down drunk since you left.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Here's a pic of the pressure plate I can't figure how to get pressure off of it to spin the bearing to the release position. It's the same type of tranny as the one you rebuilt at the clinic. I do know how.... if it was attached to an engine and is removed from an engine with a fly. This I can't figure out...

Also Dr. Evil here's a couple of pics of the bus fuse panel, is it what you want?


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post Jan 20 2010, 12:30 PM
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Yup, thats what I want. As for your pressure plate, that is not normal. It looks like you have one that has the TOB mated to the spring plates (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Like a bus unit.
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:36 PM
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It is a 911 71 (I think) PP and was told by the local guru it's what I want to do.
Yes the TO bearing is attached some way...that I can't figure out...

Is it going to hold OK on a hot street3.0? In other words is it any F'in good to me anyways?
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:38 PM
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As a temporary fix, just remove the circlip & shims that hold the pressure plate fingers to the throwout bearing and pull it off.
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:39 PM
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I am not sure if it will work for a 3.0 or not as I am out of my element on that one. I dont know how they installed the TOB in a setup like that. You need to be able to get to the allen bolt that holds the fork retainer on. can you get to it through one of the spaced in the PP?
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post Jan 20 2010, 12:55 PM
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I can't see a circlip and the pivot bolt trick might be like sticking your fingers in a bear trap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'll look again....
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post Jan 20 2010, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(jt914-6 @ Dec 27 2009, 11:15 PM) *

When I first used my 3.0 I had my 901 modified to use the 225mm pressure plate and disc. It involved relocating the throw out bearing pivot bolt location. I used a 911 clutch cable, TO bearing arm, TO bearing, 225mm PP and puck disc. I broke a couple of pivot bolts and had the bearing come off the arm. On my car now I ordered a kit from Patrick Motorsports to use the 3.0 flywheel, 901 TO bearing/arm, PP and puck disc. The kit came with a ring gear, PP, puck disc, and TO bearing. I'm now using a regular 901 tranny with no mods like the other tranny had. Use the KEP or PM kit and you'll have no problem with a 3.0 or larger engine with a 901.


By the time I fab (and cost) a hydraulic master and slave or do a 911 cable it m ght be more problems than it's worth....I am suppose to get the flywheel (he forgot it) so that part I will need.
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post Jan 20 2010, 01:41 PM
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poke a screw driver down to the throw out bearing pushing on ears of bearing housing and it will rotate free from the arm. 70-71 only
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post Jan 20 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 20 2010, 11:41 AM) *

poke a screw driver down to the throw out bearing pushing on ears of bearing housing and it will rotate free from the arm. 70-71 only


What "That Guy" said is the correct way. There should be holes in the bell housing to be able to stick the screwdriver through.

The circlip goes around the base of the TB ... hell to get at, but that's what holds the shit together. It looks like a round wire. Was gonna modify your photo, but it turned into a clusterf__k uploading so I gave up.
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Ok, so I tried again.

And I'm still amazed that you could get at the ring gear/clutch plate bolts to remove the assembly from the flywheel.
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post Jan 20 2010, 10:42 PM
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I know how it comes out normally, I did remove the exact same type of clutch at the clinic last fall. This PP is pinned to the bell housing, you can't spin the PP. The release bearing is pined as well so I cant just spin it with a screwdriver.
Ron, same deal the pressure has that circlip trapped as well.

Need the engine and flywheel on it OR some kind of fixture.
I think I'd have to bolt the PP to flywheel bolts to a bar and pull it a bit.

What an assclown PO on this...they took the clutch bolts out through the starter and clutch arm holes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jan 21 2010, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 20 2010, 08:42 PM) *


Need the engine and flywheel on it OR some kind of fixture.
I think I'd have to bolt the PP to flywheel bolts to a bar and pull it a bit.

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The first one I took apart, I didn't know the trick (didn't have a manual or help). So I wrapped a rope around the tranny and pulled the tranny off the engine with a forklift. Dumbass move, but they came apart. Kinda ruins the pressure plate (bent fingers). Considering the clutch package for the '70 - '71 911/901 tranny is $800, I think further study would be in order. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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