A list of all things that could make a L-Jet Jerky, now with ............Pics of my troubled head |
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A list of all things that could make a L-Jet Jerky, now with ............Pics of my troubled head |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 21 2010, 11:30 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
pull the rocker cover and look. you may have just had the nuts that hold the rocker on come loose. It will make a loud clatter, but won't harm anything.
put the two nuts back on and torque them down properly. It happened to me once, and scared the dickens out of me. Zach |
type47 |
Jan 21 2010, 12:28 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Make sure to relieve the tension from an open valve(s) when you torque the rocker arm.
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jsayre914 |
Jan 21 2010, 04:02 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
UPDATE...
pulled the driverside valve cover to find the intake rocker on #1 super floppy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i could fit my finger between the rocker and the push rod (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) sooooo, just for fun i backed off the nut and adjusted the screw all the way untill it was flush with the nut. I almost could get it to .006 but still a bit loose. I left it there for now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So did i bend a push rod, is that possible, does that sound like the case? I rotated the wheel to see all the rockers including the F%^& up one moving in and out like normal. What is my next step? I guess i need to take a look at that push rod, figures it would be the one to but up against the suspension ear. When it rains it pours. mabey its a cheap fix (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
jsayre914 |
Jan 21 2010, 05:36 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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VaccaRabite |
Jan 21 2010, 05:50 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
pull the pushrod out of the bore and inspect it - if you can. you may need to lower the engine little at the engine bar to do so.
But you might be able to inspect it with a mirror and a flash light. Zach |
underthetire |
Jan 21 2010, 05:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Did you happen to notice if the valve was the same height as the other ones? Maybe a dropped seat? Pushrods are aluminum stock, so yes you could have bent one.
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VaccaRabite |
Jan 21 2010, 05:52 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
When you turned the motor over, did it hang up on the faulty cylinder? Did it sound like anything was impacting (like the valve to the piston)
Underthetire beat me to it. I also suspect a dropped valve seat. Zach |
jsayre914 |
Jan 21 2010, 05:58 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I thought the valve springs all looked similar at a glance. and i did not hear much more than the super loud clanking of the rocker hitting the pushrod that was about 1/8 of an inch too short. Not sure about all the different sounds. but when i turn the engine with the wheel i do not hear metal sounds, just compression sounds
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underthetire |
Jan 21 2010, 06:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
If it was a dropped seat, that Cyl would not have compression any longer. It would just seem like a limp ,well you get it.
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jsayre914 |
Jan 21 2010, 06:11 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If it was a dropped seat, that Cyl would not have compression any longer. It would just seem like a limp ,well you get it. no compression checker with me, but if i stick my finger in the plug hole of #1 there is no compression (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 21 2010, 06:28 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Okay, silly question, but did you have your finger over the hole during the compression stroke, or when it was pushing out the exhaust? One would have compression, the other would not. If it was compression stroke, you probably dropped a seat.
Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 21 2010, 06:31 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Have you sent your 2L heads to have them rehabbed yet? If not, I'd get on it.
Zach |
r_towle |
Jan 21 2010, 07:11 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,656 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Take a picture of the valves on the drivers side and post it here.
We can tell you if something is wrong if you post a very clear picture. Rich |
jsayre914 |
Jan 22 2010, 12:56 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The intake valve spring on number one is not as tall as the other four, i got a better look at it today. I cannot take a good look at it, it is parked on a baltimore city street, and i want to get it home. All the valves are now moving as they should when i spin the wheel, and the shorter spring is holding now at .006 even though somthing is very wrong. I had a buddy from the local gas station do a leak down for me and he said 15 percent was acceptable and mine was 65 percent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) He also guessed somthing (carbon) was keeping that valve open. He also said it might have smacked the piston and bent the edge a little stopping it from seating now.
Lets all say it togeather [size=7]ENGINE DROP |
underthetire |
Jan 22 2010, 01:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
The intake valve spring on number one is not as tall as the other four, i got a better look at it today. I cannot take a good look at it, it is parked on a baltimore city street, and i want to get it home. All the valves are now moving as they should when i spin the wheel, and the shorter spring is holding now at .006 even though somthing is very wrong. I had a buddy from the local gas station do a leak down for me and he said 15 percent was acceptable and mine was 65 percent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) He also guessed somthing (carbon) was keeping that valve open. He also said it might have smacked the piston and bent the edge a little stopping it from seating now. Lets all say it togeather [size=7]ENGINE DROP Sorry man. Not carbon, dropped seat i'll bet. |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 22 2010, 02:08 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) What he said. Thats going to be another top end rebuild.
Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 22 2010, 03:26 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you get a set of the tow bar hookups, you are welcome to use my tow bar to get the car home. Get them from Rennmetal, I think.
Zach |
jsayre914 |
Jan 22 2010, 03:49 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,206 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks for the offer Zach, not sure what i am going to do at this point. I am still in tears, the day is shot to hell already. I figure probably have a dropped seat like the world says, my car is in baltimore, 1 hour from my house, my house is in boxes, including most of my tools, since i am in the process of buying another house.
And then i walk to check my car out on my lunch break and find this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) oh yeah, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/birthday3.gif) to me |
VaccaRabite |
Jan 22 2010, 04:18 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,615 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Everything can be fixed.
Get the tow bar eyes. You can borrow my tools to install them, and tow the car to your folk's house or something until you close next month. I'd lend you mine, but I think you need to have the car re-aligned after putting them on or taking them off, as you have to unbolt the front of the A-Arms. I'd say you could park here, but I'm at my limit of vehicles outside. When you get settled, we can pull the car back home and pull the motor out of it. This is incentive to get the 2056 done. Don't put any more time or money into the 1.8. Drive the Benz, and we will get the 2056 sorted. As to the jack point... Don't use it as a jack point. Don't worry about it right now. Anyhting broken can be fixed. You can open the doors, and I have gotten into the car without it groaning. I gave it the big butt test when I welded on your battery tray. Whatever rust may be there, it is not terminal. Zach |
Kirmizi |
Jan 22 2010, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
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