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993inNC |
Feb 2 2010, 07:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
So I hadn't been terribly active here lately since deciding to jump into the resto fire. I had hoped to have a driver i could restore, what I ended up with (from what I can tell) is a good candidate for saving. So I have been stripping it since September of last year. Took the holidays off and just this week really jumped in heavy.
Quick update, its a 75 L13 (Summer yellow) 1.8L and has had a few paint jobs (terrible ones) over its life. I found a media blaster here locally (finally) and I have to admit, I LOVE soda blasting. Makes 35 year old metal look like brand new (other than damaged areas). Was considering sand before finding this guy, but he has convinced me. So far he's done the doors, deck lid and hood (threw my 993 track rims in there since they were looking ratty too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ). Next week, his rotisserie is supposed to be available, so we'll load it up, he'll blast it down to metal (may sand blast the floors to get the nasty rust off and see whats left) and he's going to let me have the rotis for 1 month to give me time to replace the pans etc.... Now the questions Who really has the best price and product when it comes to the replacement metal? I know Auto Atl and Resto Design have them and there seems to be a decent price difference. I know a good many of you have experience with both and since I have none with either, I'd like to rely on what you guys have to say. I'm going to need pans, inner lower firewall, engine tray (holds the engine rubber) under the battery tray, and maybe a couple other small metal bits. I'll need this stuff pretty quick if I don't want to pay for the rotis after a month, so who can I rely on? I'll be posting pics soon for a complete diary of the restoration. Hope I can live up to some of the amazing work I've seen here. I plan to do the pans etc myself, but there is rust in tight spots (underside of doors and small area on the rear decklid) that I don't have the talent for. The blaster was a Mercedes body man for many years and I'll defer that intricate work to him. This is going to get expensive, I can already tell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh as a bench mark, he said its going to run between 12-1400 to do the entire car. Sounded high but what are my alternatives .....? It is pretty work though, and I think is the right thing to do TIA |
McMark |
Feb 2 2010, 07:13 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
If $1200-1400 sounds high, get ready.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) Looking forward to following along. |
993inNC |
Feb 2 2010, 07:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
great what does that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mean? Ready for......?
Promise I'll get pics up. i was a nasty rainy day here and I don't need any more rust on newly blasted parts. Tomorrow is supposed to be nice |
scotty b |
Feb 2 2010, 07:55 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
FWIW we had a tr3 soda blasted at one of the shops I worked at and IIRC it was 1100.00 for JUST the exterior body. No interior, no floors, just a rolling chassis on the ground. 1200.00 isn't bad. Just remeber to run a d.a. with 80-150 grit over it before priming. Soda leaves a film that the paint won't adhere to.
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993inNC |
Feb 2 2010, 08:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
I was told there is a chemical stripper that can be sprayed on and then the car needs to be pressure washed to get the soda residue off. Apparently soda leaves the factory metal intact as apposed to breaking through the "skin" of it. Sand on the other hand penetrates the metal and thats bad. I'm sure the blast man will point me in the right direction.
The price sounded high because I got a price to sand blast at 3-500. Another soda @ $800 and this guy was top dollar. He does pick up and deliver the parts to my hose and is lending the rotisserie so i figure that has value to it But thanks for the heads up though. Now I just need new metal (and apparently lots of $$) and I'll be on my way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Feb 2 2010, 08:43 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
FWIW we had a tr3 soda blasted at one of the shops I worked at and IIRC it was 1100.00 for JUST the exterior body. No interior, no floors, just a rolling chassis on the ground. 1200.00 isn't bad. Just remeber to run a d.a. with 80-150 grit over it before priming. Soda leaves a film that the paint won't adhere to. Scotty, I'm not in need, but curious.... What's a "d.a."? Pat |
jaxdream |
Feb 2 2010, 11:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
D. A. = dual action sander. Small hand held sander air powerd preferably.
Jack / Jaxdream |
Gint |
Feb 3 2010, 07:47 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If $1200-1400 sounds high, get ready.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) great what does that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mean? Ready for......?Promise I'll get pics up. i was a nasty rainy day here and I don't need any more rust on newly blasted parts. Tomorrow is supposed to be nice I think he means that you're going to spend a lot more than $1200 before you finish this project. But what do I know about that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Good luck! And post more pics! |
McMark |
Feb 3 2010, 12:43 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
Nothing will be as cheap as you're thinking. At least in my experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
gopack |
Feb 3 2010, 02:20 PM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
This is going to get expensive, I can already tell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh as a bench mark, he said its going to run between 12-1400 to do the entire car. Sounded high but what are my alternatives .....? It is pretty work though, and I think is the right thing to do TIA Funny, my guy quoted me $12-14K as well. After a while (3 months) I got it back in primer, and a total of $16500 spent there, NOT including the 1K for the flares, the $700 for the fiberglass parts, and the $500 for replacement body panels! I added lots of "wants", so it is my own fault. As it sits now, it need between $5 and 8K for a good paint job! Just my $0.02! Good luck! and show it off! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
gopack |
Feb 3 2010, 02:22 PM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
Never mind! the soda and sand blaster chargd me 1000 only!
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993inNC |
Feb 3 2010, 03:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
This is going to get expensive, I can already tell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh as a bench mark, he said its going to run between 12-1400 to do the entire car. Sounded high but what are my alternatives .....? It is pretty work though, and I think is the right thing to do TIA Funny, my guy quoted me $12-14K as well. After a while (3 months) I got it back in primer, and a total of $16500 spent there, NOT including the 1K for the flares, the $700 for the fiberglass parts, and the $500 for replacement body panels! I added lots of "wants", so it is my own fault. As it sits now, it need between $5 and 8K for a good paint job! Just my $0.02! Good luck! and show it off! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) I'm sure hoping you mean 12-14 HUNDRED and not THOUSAND and $1650, not 16,500! As for the expense part I figure, 1200 for the blasting, 1000 in new metal, 1000 in body work and prep that I can't do, 2000 +/- for the paint. So 5k in the body/paint with me doing a lot of the metal replacing. I've received prices on interior, which comes to $1000 seats (leather), 600 dash recover (alcantara) 5-750 (misc interior coverings) and a couple hundred for carpet and minor trim bits. Not doing anything crazy with the motor or suspension, just want a nice stock driver. hope to have 10k or under in it when done.......we'll see how that goes! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
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993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
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993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
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993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
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993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
Sorry, I have a ton of pics but this site only lets me load one or two at a time and I know no one wants to go through 30 pages 1 at a time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Should have the rotisserie first of the week and off to the blaster it goes. Will report back once stripped |
McMark |
Feb 4 2010, 07:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
If the site only lets you load one or two you should resize them to 800px max. See the FAQ forum for how cause I'd love to see more.
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993inNC |
Feb 4 2010, 07:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 14-August 09 From: at the beach Member No.: 10,676 Region Association: South East States |
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Ian Stott |
Feb 4 2010, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 907 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Moncton/Canada Member No.: 8,635 Region Association: Canada |
Mark I have a brand new set of floor pans still in the box, got them from Restoration Design and I am looking to sell them, got some other stuff too.
Ian Stott Moncton |
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