 The Legend of the "914 S" & "914 SC", Myth or Fact? |
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| Tom_T |
 Jun 15 2010, 05:41 PM
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TMI....  Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California 
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QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 15 2010, 04:26 PM)  QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 15 2010, 07:22 PM) I don't recall anyone ever using the word "Super" with regards to a "S" badge on any German There's a woman from Hamburg who lives down the road. It's generally acknowledged she is a Super Cougar. We call her SC. Just sayin' Hey Mike, at our ages - she's not interested in us - if she's a Cougar, cuz she want's the young bucks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 15 2010, 05:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 04:39 PM) and the 911S was also referred to as "Super" on that 356 carry-forward in some Porsche literature. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) And let me guess, that 'literature' was in English? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
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| MDG |
Jun 15 2010, 06:04 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 07:41 PM) Hey Mike, at our ages - she's not interested in us - if she's a Cougar, cuz she want's the young bucks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Doesn't matter anyway. My wife told me I'm not allowed to have girlfriends anymore . . . women. |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 15 2010, 06:20 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 15 2010, 04:43 PM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 04:39 PM) and the 911S was also referred to as "Super" on that 356 carry-forward in some Porsche literature. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) And let me guess, that 'literature' was in English? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy I've seen it in English, French, Spanish & German, and we have people here in the US who have learned to translate German into English (myself not included), Herr Andy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 15 2010, 06:23 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 15 2010, 05:04 PM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 07:41 PM) Hey Mike, at our ages - she's not interested in us - if she's a Cougar, cuz she want's the young bucks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Doesn't matter anyway. My wife told me I'm not allowed to have girlfriends anymore . . . women. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... Geeesh, these women have no sense of humor about those kind of things! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mine wife too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 15 2010, 06:23 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 05:20 PM) I've seen it in English, French, Spanish & German, and we have people here in the US who have learned to translate German into English (myself not included), Herr Andy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I'd be interested to see a Porsche document (in German) that refers to the 911S as "911 Super" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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| sixerdon |
Jun 15 2010, 09:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 15 2010, 03:22 PM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 04:12 PM) or did they mean Coupe Super? ... or Super Coupe bass-ackwards?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I don't recall anyone ever using the word "Super" with regards to a "S" badge on any German automobile. I have no idea where that terminology came from. But i only spent 35 years in Germany, it's possible i missed a thing or two ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy Then you never saw a 1300 Super, a 1500 Super, a 1600 Super and Super 90, all emblems by Porsche from 1952 through 1963 B's. This was a world wide badge on the 356's, no matter what country it was exported to. The terminology came from Porsche. Don |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 15 2010, 11:55 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 15 2010, 05:23 PM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 05:20 PM) I've seen it in English, French, Spanish & German, and we have people here in the US who have learned to translate German into English (myself not included), Herr Andy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I'd be interested to see a Porsche document (in German) that refers to the 911S as "911 Super" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy Andy, with all due respect to your exalted status here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) - it is well time to give this line of debate a rest & stop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) As I've said several times, the purpose of this topic thread is to put in info. on the US/Canada "914 S" marketing campaign/designation, and the UK's similar "914SC" marketing program/designation. It is NOT for you and I to have some silly running argument over what the bloody general letters stood for in German, English, Swahili, etc.! What matters here is what the Brits' meant by the SC, since the ads/etc. which I've posted clearly stated that Porsche+Audi here meant the "S" to mean "Super" for the "914 S" campaign. So now it's time to stop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| ME733 |
Jun 16 2010, 08:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
..........Well my 914 ..rear logo is ..914 S...and came that way from the dealer., from the !st ..and 2nd owner... so there, I finally said it.
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| SirAndy |
Jun 16 2010, 11:03 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(sixerdon @ Jun 15 2010, 08:08 PM) Then you never saw a 1300 Super, a 1500 Super, a 1600 Super and Super 90, all emblems by Porsche from 1952 through 1963 B's. This was a world wide badge on the 356's, no matter what country it was exported to. I'm no 356 expert, but any 356 Super i have seen had the word Super written out on the badge ... On the other hand, i have never seen a "911 Super" badge ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy PS: One more point in case, you Americans call the VW 1303S beetle "Super Beetle", yet that term was never used in Germany when that car hit the market. The 1303S was the sport edition, with such upgrades as a 50HP engine, coil-over suspension and a improved windshield/dashboard area. |
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| MDG |
Jun 16 2010, 12:31 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 16 2010, 01:16 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 16 2010, 11:31 AM) scratched off a little paint and I found this underneath! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| ME733 |
Jun 16 2010, 02:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 16 2010, 02:31 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) scratched off a little paint and I found this underneath! .................My rear logo doesn"t have the bottom "super" lettering...The dealer was just way more concenious on your car., as he complied with the official porsche advertising campain, and dealer sales, and marketing materials. |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 16 2010, 02:10 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Jun 16 2010, 07:48 AM) ..........Well my 914 ..rear logo is ..914 S...and came that way from the dealer., from the !st ..and 2nd owner... so there, I finally said it. Plz post a pic Murray! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) |
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| MDG |
Jun 16 2010, 02:11 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 16 2010, 02:11 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 16 2010, 10:03 AM) QUOTE(sixerdon @ Jun 15 2010, 08:08 PM) Then you never saw a 1300 Super, a 1500 Super, a 1600 Super and Super 90, all emblems by Porsche from 1952 through 1963 B's. This was a world wide badge on the 356's, no matter what country it was exported to. I'm no 356 expert, but any 356 Super i have seen had the word Super written out on the badge ... On the other hand, i have never seen a "911 Super" badge ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy PS: One more point in case, you Americans call the VW 1303S beetle "Super Beetle", yet that term was never used in Germany when that car hit the market. The 1303S was the sport edition, with such upgrades as a 50HP engine, coil-over suspension and a improved windshield/dashboard area. Well gosh Andy - you win - you are truly a Master Debater! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .... moving on folks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 16 2010, 02:13 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 16 2010, 11:31 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) scratched off a little paint and I found this underneath! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... I think I once saw one with "Super Duper" under the 914-S! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 16 2010, 02:25 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 15 2010, 01:52 AM) Andy - a Roadster is an open top car & usually only a 2 seater but sometimes with a small rear jump or kiddy or package seat - so a 914 or 911 Targa is usually grouped as a roadster, even if it's not a soft top convertable type but has a removable hardtop or hard-drop-top design. Technically the 911/912/930 hardtop is a Coupe because of the hardtop & 2 door design (vs. 4 dr.) & no B-pillar between the front & rear side windows. In today's Porsche models' terms - the Boxster is a Roadster, while a Cayman is a Sports Coupe, & convertable/Targa 911's are Roadsters & hardtops (permanent ones) are Sports Coupes. My 85 325e 2dr. gets called a Coupe, but since it has a b-pillar, it is technically classed as a 2 dr sedan, whereas the old 60's-70's BMW 2.8/3.0 CS/CSi with no b-pillar were true Coupes. Additionally, some of the current b-pillar-less 4 dr. are called coupes by MBZ. Anyway, that was the old school auto definitions when I was looking at going to Art Center or Carnegie-Mellon for automotive design/engineering in 1969-70. Therefore you're Sports Coupe for 911SC sounds correct - it being a sports coupe. For those who like to wiki-peter themselves to death (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) , I offer their definitions for roadster, coupe and sedan ... ... pick your own poison for a definition, cuz some numb nutz will find a dozen or more instances where an auto maker goes sideways on it any-hoo!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_%28automobile%29 Read & enjoy, but nuff said here on that matter! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) . Back to the remaining Question at hand ....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . Any Brits out there with "914SC" info, pics, ads, etc.???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ... Heck - I'll even take it from an Aussie or Kiwi, since I'm not too attached to the dang fool P.O.M.E.'s anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| carr914 |
Jun 16 2010, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 16 2010, 03:16 PM) QUOTE(MDG @ Jun 16 2010, 11:31 AM) scratched off a little paint and I found this underneath! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Andy, you DO have a sense of humor. I love you man, but I was wondering. Now onto the new SC  |
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| beech4rd |
Jun 16 2010, 08:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 10-January 07 From: Highwoods, Saugerties, NY Member No.: 7,445 Region Association: North East States
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In the January 2006 edition of Classic and Sports Car, a British magazine, there is a comparison of the VW-Porsche 911SC and the Jensen-Healey. The SC is refered to as having the Sport and Comfort package-basically it's a 1973/4 2.0 with all the options except chrome bumpers. It's noted that Crayford charged 600GBP to convert a car to RHD.
There is a reference to Porsche Club GB 914 registry. (www.porscheclubgb.com) Perhaps someone there knows. The story also points out that a VW-Porsche 914/6 was more expensive in 1971 than a Jaguar E-Type V12. I wonder which is worth more now. Actually I don't- the Jag's worth considerably more. Chris |
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