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> M471 Clarification, just flares?
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post Jun 23 2010, 12:08 AM
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I read this thread about M471 cars and had a question.

As I read it, the M471 designation really applies to 'factory' flares. GT-cars had the oil cooler, but as I understand it, the M471 did not specifically include the cooler. Am I right?

For those of you familiar with these cars, or GT cars, were the flares completely seam welded? Or were they flange welded?
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post Jun 23 2010, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 22 2010, 11:08 PM) *

I read this thread about M471 cars and had a question.

As I read it, the M471 designation really applies to 'factory' flares. GT-cars had the oil cooler, but as I understand it, the M471 did not specifically include the cooler. Am I right?

For those of you familiar with these cars, or GT cars, were the flares completely seam welded? Or were they flange welded?

Factory steel flares, as far as i can tell butt-welded and wider wheels and tires (7" x 8" WRONG! should be 6" with 1" spacers).


I know of at least one m471 who also came with a leather interior instead of vinyl from the factory, but i don't think the two are related ...


Basically, the m471 option was simply the Porsche option for a GT look-alike.
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post Jun 23 2010, 02:18 AM
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M471 also included alloy wheels & 185/70VR15 tires IIRC - often as the Michelin XWX, which are still available in that size new from Lucas Tires at $400+ each! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 23 2010, 07:15 AM
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one neat touch was the factory flared front steel valance.

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M471 also included alloy wheels & 185/70VR15 tires IIRC - often as the Michelin XWX, which are still available in that size new from Lucas Tires at $400+ each! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 23 2010, 08:09 AM
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George, was the "stiffening kit" part of the package the dealerships sold?
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post Jun 23 2010, 08:10 AM
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Then it also had longer wheel studs.
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post Jun 23 2010, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jun 23 2010, 07:09 AM) *

George, was the "stiffening kit" part of the package the dealerships sold?


no actually the car was just a totally stock 914-6 with the addition of butt welded factory flares, 21 mm wheel spacers, longer wheel studs, 6x15 fuchs alloys including the spare 185 70 15 tires, front steel flared valance, NO rear valance, fiberglass flared rocker panels, and for the USA cars lower mounted front side marker assemblies.
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post Jun 23 2010, 01:24 PM
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This from my files:



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post Jun 23 2010, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jun 23 2010, 12:24 PM) *

This from my files:

4600 DM? Wow, that stuff was expensive!

And it doesn't list any rockers or valences. Only the flares and the 6" wheels with tires and longer wheel studs ...
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post Jun 23 2010, 05:00 PM
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Flares and 6" wheels with spacers.
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Jun 23 2010, 05:15 AM) *

one neat touch was the factory flared front steel valance.


George, was it just the front valence, or did it include the rear valence and the rocker panels? All four pieces benefit from flaring to match the fenders.
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 23 2010, 02:50 AM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 22 2010, 11:08 PM) *

I read this thread about M471 cars and had a question.

As I read it, the M471 designation really applies to 'factory' flares. GT-cars had the oil cooler, but as I understand it, the M471 did not specifically include the cooler. Am I right?

For those of you familiar with these cars, or GT cars, were the flares completely seam welded? Or were they flange welded?

Factory steel flares, as far as i can tell butt-welded and wider wheels and tires (7" x 8" with 1" spacers).


I know of at least one m471 who also came with a leather interior instead of vinyl from the factory, but i don't think the two are related ...


Basically, the m471 option was simply the Porsche option for a GT look-alike.
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jun 23 2010, 03:24 PM) *

This from my files:


6x15 were the wheels on a M471
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post Jun 23 2010, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 05:03 PM) *

Then why mislead people?

Because i'm stupid and didn't recall the tire size correctly. Thanks for pointing out the very obvious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)


You need to get laid more ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 23 2010, 08:10 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 05:03 PM) *

Then why mislead people?

Because i'm stupid and didn't recall the tire size correctly. Thanks for pointing out the very obvious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)


You need to get laid more ...
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 06:56 PM) *
you are no where near an expert on 914s or a Human being.

We can't all be like you. I'm a mere mortal who makes mistakes.


How does it feel to be so superior? I'd like to know ...
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Feels Good, especially when I don't have to attack anyone personally

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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 07:15 PM) *

especially when I don't have to attack anyone personally

Then maybe you shouldn't ...

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 23 2010, 08:10 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 05:03 PM) *

Then why mislead people?



You need to get laid more ...
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Then maybe you shouldn't start the insults

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 23 2010, 08:10 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 23 2010, 05:03 PM) *

Then why mislead people?

Because i'm stupid and didn't recall the tire size correctly. Thanks for pointing out the very obvious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)


You need to get laid more ...
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And all you had to was read the Post above yours to find the correct wheel size or the original post that McMark referenced before you voiced opinions as facts.

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