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Subaru Engine w/Boxster transaxle, Perfect fix for 914??? |
charliew |
Aug 26 2010, 03:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Twin scroll, will you be able to use a factory header? It also looks like the motor cradle will allow a fatter oil pan but with the stuff you are doing it will probably be a dry sump right?
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precisionchassis |
Aug 26 2010, 05:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Twin scroll, will you be able to use a factory header? It also looks like the motor cradle will allow a fatter oil pan but with the stuff you are doing it will probably be a dry sump right? I'm not going to be using the factory manifolds. The factory exhaust is designed to run along the right side of the motor which is where the Boxster has it's shifter cables and linkage. I will be making custom stainless steel headers that will dump into the turbo on the left side of the transaxle. I'll have some pictures up in a few days of the exhaust. No dry sump on this car (too expensive to justify) |
precisionchassis |
Sep 2 2010, 02:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Started on the wiring harness tonight. Here is the unmolested 2007 WRX harness ready to be "reduced" wire by wire...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283416430.1.jpg) |
precisionchassis |
Sep 3 2010, 07:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I finally got the exhaust finished today. I'm pretty happy with the way it came out. I still need to add two double slip joints in between the cylinder banks, some wastegate dump supports, and a couple of O2 bungs, but other than that, it's done. This first system is only 304 SS but I made sure to carefully purge everything, and all of the welds are full penetration welds rather than the standard "automotive style" welds so it will have the best possible chance of surviving. Also, the turbo is supported by a 1/4" thick plate bracket so the actual exhaust tubing isn't holding any weight other than it's own. If the 304 doesn't survive, then I will do the second set in 321 and see how long that lasts.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565551.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565551.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.6.jpg) |
Rotary'14 |
Sep 3 2010, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 |
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That's a work of art. You do some awesome work. I love it and I don't even need it (yet). -Robert |
charliew |
Sep 3 2010, 09:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing.
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Andyrew |
Sep 3 2010, 10:31 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
That is fuckin awesome...
Seriously. |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 3 2010, 11:12 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
That is fuckin awesome... Seriously. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
Britain Smith |
Sep 3 2010, 11:23 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
That looks fantasic. Where did you get the flanges against the heads? I will be making my own custom header here soon.
-Britain |
precisionchassis |
Sep 4 2010, 09:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing. I'm not worried about lag in relation to header length. THe system is a little longer than the aftermarket Subie equal length headers, but not a whole lot longer once you take into consideration the length of the up-pipe. There's really no other place for the turbo to go in the chassis anyway. Besides, it worked on the 917/30 didn't it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283616097.1.jpg) Water fron the wheel shouldn't be an issue since I will be retaining the rear wheel liners, and the fact that this car will be a track car. |
precisionchassis |
Sep 4 2010, 09:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That looks fantasic. Where did you get the flanges against the heads? I will be making my own custom header here soon. -Britain I had my water jet guy cut the flanges from some 1/2" thick 305 SS. I had him do a few sets so I have some extras if you want. Send me a PM if you are interested. When I was looking around for some for myself, I had a hard time finding any that were thick enough, or had the right 1.755" holes for the tubing to slide into. |
bryanc |
Sep 4 2010, 10:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 9-August 04 From: San Antonio, Tx Member No.: 2,495 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor?
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precisionchassis |
Sep 4 2010, 10:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor? Hahaha, yes it is. I'm breathing new life into it. I was going to have Jim tell you about but I wasn't sure if you were a "Porsche Purist" who would be offended by seeing it with something other than a Porshce motor in it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You should update your "signature" on the status of the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
bryanc |
Sep 4 2010, 10:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 9-August 04 From: San Antonio, Tx Member No.: 2,495 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor? Hahaha, yes it is. I'm breathing new life into it. I was going to have Jim tell you about but I wasn't sure if you were a "Porsche Purist" who would be offended by seeing it with something other than a Porshce motor in it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You should update your "signature" on the status of the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I'll update the signature. I'm certainly no purist. If my time and budget allowed, the car would have gotten something interesting done to it--I was thinking an Audi V8 though.... |
Zaney |
Sep 4 2010, 09:15 PM
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Deuchland en der Haus Group: Members Posts: 461 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Engine 11 Redmond, WA Member No.: 1,738 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I finally got the exhaust finished today. I'm pretty happy with the way it came out. I still need to add two double slip joints in between the cylinder banks, some wastegate dump supports, and a couple of O2 bungs, but other than that, it's done. This first system is only 304 SS but I made sure to carefully purge everything, and all of the welds are full penetration welds rather than the standard "automotive style" welds so it will have the best possible chance of surviving. Also, the turbo is supported by a 1/4" thick plate bracket so the actual exhaust tubing isn't holding any weight other than it's own. If the 304 doesn't survive, then I will do the second set in 321 and see how long that lasts. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565551.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565551.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i180.photobucket.com-11979-1283565552.6.jpg) Seeing that exhaust in front would blow a Porsche snobs mind! |
ottox914 |
Sep 5 2010, 06:58 AM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing. That exhaust system is just amazing. Between that and the trans adapter, hope you are making good notes because you could be making more adapters and exhaust systems... With a properly sized turbo the tubes length should not be a problem. Check out the turbo location in my turbo project thread below. Water/turbo housing has been a non-issue as well. Also google up STS turbo systems, they do rear mount turbos for many other cars, and while it may be a little unconventional, it can work well. |
Dr Evil |
Sep 5 2010, 08:44 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I am awed by this build. One thing that I notice, though, is that your popes are really close to the gear box. Typically this can led to premature wear and failure. Is this something that you already considered and have provided for?
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roadster fan |
Sep 5 2010, 02:37 PM
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Project Frankenstein !!!!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Aptos, CA Member No.: 5,184 Region Association: Northern California |
One thing that I notice, though, is that your POPES are really close to the gear box. Typically this can led to premature wear and failure. Is this something that you already considered and have provided for? huh? I missed those guys in his pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) is this like "where's waldo?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Jim |
Dr Evil |
Sep 5 2010, 06:31 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Blah blah, I was typing on my iPod. It is not easy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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precisionchassis |
Sep 5 2010, 10:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 26-July 10 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 11,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
To answer your question, Yes, I do plan on heat wrapping the entire system, and adding strategic heat shields where they are needed. Also, this car will have a transmission oil cooler (as all track cars should) so I'm not really concerned.
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