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Changed the clutch, one more question... |
SUNAB914 |
Aug 24 2010, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 29-December 08 From: Fredericksburg VA Member No.: 9,880 Region Association: South East States |
My input to this from what I read.
Flywheel not in spec. Check to make sure your fork is not bent. That can happen. Make sure are using the proper clutch and pressure plate. There is more adjustment on the front of the clutch cable where it attaches to pedal cluster. Did you replace shift rod bushings? Could be an alignment problem and nothing to do with clutch assembly. Good luck |
Cap'n Krusty |
Aug 24 2010, 07:39 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Did you replace the plastic ball cup on the release arm? While I'm saking questions, here's a BIG one. Did you replace the o-ring in the back of the flywheel? How about the pilot bearing? For the ball, you need a deep 9/16 socket with the splines going all the way down the inside of the socket. Hard to find, but they DO exist. Use one of the washers from the nose cover of the trans. Be sure to pus another washer in its place. The original washers are of a higher quality than the ones you find in the aftermarket, and they're FLAT. The Cap'n The O-ring at the back of the flywheel, crankshaft seal? then no. Didn't think we would be able to set the end play right so left it alone. Might have to do it... I'm going to try to get the pivot ball off, I can visualize what I might be able to do to a socket to make it work, grinding it down and such. Thanks for all the help guys! Back to work (job) I'll try again thursday. Typically flywheels don't come with that o-ring installed, and you're gonna have a massive oil leak, right on to your new disc. The Cap'n |
brant |
Aug 24 2010, 07:53 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,735 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I only read through this once, so forgive me if I am mistaken.
but I understood that your old flywheel was blue/scored, so you put the used flywheel on. However, you also state that you didn't want to have to reset the endplay and left the crank seal alone. You still have to reset the endplay any time you change the flywheel. Even if you don't touch the crank seal you still have to reset your endplay. It won't be the reason for your clutch issues, but it will break your crank or wear out your motor in the next few thousand miles if the crank is bouncing forward/back due to excessive end play If I missed something in the quick read through I apologize, it just seemed that there was a misunderstanding about end play. |
ripper911 |
Aug 24 2010, 12:00 PM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
Alright, so I'll have to set the end play.
I read in the pelican write up that most shops don't bother with it so I wasn't too concerned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I was also concerned with the shift linkage as it seems a to be having trouble going into 4th and 5th, But maybe it works while in motion, I dont usually try to shift into 4th/5th at a standstill... but the set screws only go in one spot, so how can it be wrong? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Someone said earlier to set the end play with a stiff wire and feeler guages, I'll try that. But the end play wouldn't effect the clutch activity, so I still have to work that out. I'll try to get the pivot ball out to shim it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) This is my first time trying to really work on my car. Thanks for putting up with my lack of experience. I usually work with flesh. |
ripper911 |
Aug 24 2010, 12:07 PM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
I just found something interesting on another thread from 2004.
My release fork dosent have the plactic cup attached, that may be the problem!!! But I guess it's good that I Haven't been able to drive it before setting the end play first. |
Spoke |
Aug 24 2010, 12:39 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 7,052 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
The little plastic ball cup in the clutch fork should be changed when the clutch is changed. If it's missing, then your issue makes sense.
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jsaum |
Aug 24 2010, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 12-June 07 From: Everett, WA Member No.: 7,809 Region Association: None |
Yes the plastic cup would affect the travel and probably cause the issue of the clutch not to disengage. I would replace the plastic cup before I tried to shim the pivot ball.
Jsaum |
Bartlett 914 |
Aug 24 2010, 01:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Why would it be missing unless you took it out? Maybe you didn't see it in there. Often they wear out and the ball sits deeper.
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ripper911 |
Aug 24 2010, 04:26 PM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
We are pretty sure there wasn't one there on the old one...
So, one more question. hopefully. About shimming the crankshaft for end play Is this a situation where I will have to get everything off, take my measurements to see what size shim I need and then go get that particular size, or are there spares somewhere back there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That will mean my next trip to marietta will be in the middle of doing the job... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
ripper911 |
Aug 25 2010, 08:29 AM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
one last question hopefully, I would like to know this before i get to work again.
Are the shims available as a set so that I can have different thicknesses available or do I have to know which one I need before I go shopping? |
SLITS |
Aug 25 2010, 10:59 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Somewhere in this thread I thought I told you they were all fitted with 3 shims. One thick and two thinner ones.
You put two shims on to start (thick & thin), measure the endplay and then calculate the thickness required for the 3rd shim. They are probably available from VW or VW parts houses. If not, you have to rely on the board members to find the one you are looking for (or have a couple of spare engines around). Hopefully, the ones you have will get you into the correct endplay range and you won't have to search for one. |
ripper911 |
Aug 25 2010, 11:15 AM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
Somewhere in this thread I thought I told you they were all fitted with 3 shims. One thick and two thinner ones. You put two shims on to start (thick & thin), measure the endplay and then calculate the thickness required for the 3rd shim. They are probably available from VW or VW parts houses. If not, you have to rely on the board members to find the one you are looking for (or have a couple of spare engines around). Hopefully, the ones you have will get you into the correct endplay range and you won't have to search for one. You did tell me that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But if the end play has to be changed how would the shims that are already there be made to have a different thickness... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) My question was this. Are these usually available in "variety packs" or will I have to know the exact thickness of the one I need before I go shopping? After I asked, I looked on the AA site (where I get all of my parts, in store) and they have them individually, so I guess I'll go buy one of every size and hope one is right... By the way, thank you Slits, you have aswered my questions very well so far, even if I don't always listen... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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