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Subaru Engine Conversion Wiki, Let's compile all the knowledge into one thread... |
DukeTrout |
Feb 16 2011, 02:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 18-January 11 From: Oregon Member No.: 12,609 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I live over on the East side suburbs, but I work in Wilsonville. I'd love to check out the SBII some time. I'm starting to hunt Craigslist for 914 rollers...
QUOTE Hey Duke...are you in the Portland/Hillsboro area? If you are nearby, you are welcome to come by anytime to check it out. I should have it running by this weekend or next week. -Britain |
DukeTrout |
Feb 16 2011, 02:47 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 18-January 11 From: Oregon Member No.: 12,609 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here's some quick info regarding suby transmissions and clutch assemblies. Another thing to take into consideration in higher-hp builds is the "front" differential. In almost all of the transmissions thenewwazoo listed, the "front" differential is open, which would lead to 1-wheel drive in some situations. The STi 6-speed has a helical front differential that's tuned more for pulling the car through corners. It might be an interesting effect when applied in a RWD configuration. There are differentials on the market that can be added to the WRX and Legacy GT 5-speeds and the 2007-2009 Legacy GT spce.B 6-speeds, but that would involve cracking the transmission. Still, might be worth it compared to the $ of a high-demand STi transmission. |
d914 |
Feb 16 2011, 05:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,343 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
The down side of the six speeds besides cost ,,, they are considerably longer,,, I heard there is a shorter version coming or here now and that the gearing is considerably shorter..lots of shifting or jumping of gears. I could possibly see shortening 4th possibly for a track car.. good pop coming out of corners but on the street the 6 speed might be more annoying than just dropping in an after market lsd 5 speed..
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strawman |
Feb 16 2011, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
... I did what they suggested in my suby trans, tapped a plug about 2-3 inches up from the bottom near 5th gear. I ended up with about 7 qts of oil which is almost double the suby specification. Doing this resolved the bearing noise which I now know was due to not enough oil in the trans. I'd like to see what you've come up with. How about a picture? Geoff |
sawtooth |
Feb 16 2011, 10:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 9,211 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
... I did what they suggested in my suby trans, tapped a plug about 2-3 inches up from the bottom near 5th gear. I ended up with about 7 qts of oil which is almost double the suby specification. Doing this resolved the bearing noise which I now know was due to not enough oil in the trans. I'd like to see what you've come up with. How about a picture? Geoff I'm just making a judgment call here, I don't know exactly where bremar puts their inspection plug. But from the description I got, this spot makes sense. A little hard to see with it in the car. It's the brass plug right in the center of the picture. Here's a shot of another trans with the red dot about where I put the inspection plug. This location baths about 1/2 of the drive shaft below 5th gear set which should get good coverage on 5th gear above. It's a lot more oil than an original suby setup, but after talking with Bremar they didn't feel like too much oil (within reason of course) would hurt in this case. |
strawman |
Feb 17 2011, 01:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
I'm just making a judgment call here, I don't know exactly where bremar puts their inspection plug. But from the description I got, this spot makes sense. A little hard to see with it in the car. It's the brass plug right in the center of the picture. Here's a shot of another trans with the red dot about where I put the inspection plug. This location baths about 1/2 of the drive shaft below 5th gear set which should get good coverage on 5th gear above. It's a lot more oil than an original suby setup, but after talking with Bremar they didn't feel like too much oil (within reason of course) would hurt in this case. Thanks for this info. I'll have to crawl under my car to gander at what's-what to better understand your suggestions. Did you consider installing the inspection plug on the rear plate instead of the side of the trans case? That would avoid getting drilling/tapping metal chips in the gearbox. I've already completely rebuilt my gearbox and really don't wanna tear it apart again! Of course, the chips would be relatively-soft aluminum and could be minimized by glopping grease on the drill bit and tap. Any thoughts on that? Geoff |
sawtooth |
Feb 17 2011, 01:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 9,211 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Thanks for this info. I'll have to crawl under my car to gander at what's-what to better understand your suggestions. Did you consider installing the inspection plug on the rear plate instead of the side of the trans case? That would avoid getting drilling/tapping metal chips in the gearbox. I've already completely rebuilt my gearbox and really don't wanna tear it apart again! Of course, the chips would be relatively-soft aluminum and could be minimized by glopping grease on the drill bit and tap. Any thoughts on that? Geoff Geoff that sounds like a good idea to me. I had the mid section separated from the trans at the time I tapped it so I was able to keep things clean. I'll probably just tap the plate like you are suggesting for my rebuilt trans when I swap it in. - Dean |
DBCooper |
Jan 10 2013, 04:03 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
DBCooper - Modified Renegade Engine Cradle. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-364-1284054904.jpg) I just saw this, sorry. That's not a Renegade cradle, it's the first one we made. At one point someone commented that it looked like a Renegade (though better made) but I don't know because I've never actually seen a Renegade cradle. So this may look like one, or it may not, I don't know. . |
DBCooper |
Jan 10 2013, 04:05 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
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904svo |
Jan 10 2013, 04:51 PM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,124 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
some wiring tricks.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=199291 |
scotty b |
Jan 15 2013, 09:22 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I recall someone somewhere ( ClubNARP most likely ) someone used an Impreza fuel pump on their conversion and it looked very good on the 914 tank. IIRC they also said the pickup and float were just about prefectly spaced in the teeners tank.
What I need to know, is if the flow rate on the Impreza pump is the same as on the SVX pump, and if not, does anyone know if the SVX pump will fit on the Impreza assy. ? It's pretty cool how a forum that no-one visits like NARP has a forum just for Sooby guys isn't it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
BIGKAT_83 |
Jan 15 2013, 11:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States |
Here you go.works like a champ. The fuel pressure is set by the regulator on the fuel rail of the SVX.
Bob |
scotty b |
Jan 15 2013, 12:59 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
awesome. Thanks Bob. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I've been looking at SVX fuel pumps and senders, and they just don't lend themselves to a good adaptation, as they screwed onto a plastic tank. The Impreza one does since it bolts down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Chris H. |
Jan 15 2013, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,048 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Yeah and that plastic screw-top is a PITA to get off...
Bob, didn't you use the Impreza top with the SVX pump? |
BIGKAT_83 |
Jan 15 2013, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States |
No I just ran it the way I got it out of the Impreza. Didnt even change the pump.
All I needed to do was cut a hole in the tank for it. The pump goes right into the stock tank sump. I used rivet nuts to bolt the plate in. Bob |
Chris H. |
Jan 15 2013, 03:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,048 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ahhhhhh.... I misunderstood you. That's normal for me though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I thought your setup looked weird compared to mine. I guess I sell the SVX pump then! Thanks again for the guidance.
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DBCooper |
Jul 15 2013, 03:53 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
It's pretty cool how a forum that no-one visits like NARP has a forum just for Sooby guys isn't it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Ha ha ha ha! Boy Scotty, when you're right you don't let it go, do you! Ha ha ha. Good one. |
CptTripps |
Oct 17 2013, 09:38 AM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Can we update some of the data in this thread? There are a lot of new projects in the works, and many have found better ways to do some of the things outlined here.
...just sayin'. |
1stworks |
Mar 7 2014, 11:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
great info!!!!!!
Thank you |
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