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post Jan 7 2011, 01:07 PM
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What does it weight...and cost?

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Weighs around 50 kilograms, price over 10k USD....
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post Jan 7 2011, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(Hontec @ Jan 7 2011, 11:07 AM) *

QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Jan 7 2011, 08:03 PM) *

What does it weight...and cost?

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Weighs around 50 kilograms, price over 10k USD....



Just wanted to say how much fun it is watching your thread Randall.

Simply excellent work and you make us all jealous with you clean processes and great garage.

BTW my 914 transmission with a Guard clutch type limit slip weights 100 lbs.
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post Jan 7 2011, 03:55 PM
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Thanks for the info on that trans company! It looks like they have an option on one of their transmissions to match a bellhousing to the purchaser's engine.
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post Jan 7 2011, 04:00 PM
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Just wanted to say how much fun it is watching your thread Randall.

Simply excellent work and you make us all jealous with you clean processes and great garage.

BTW my 914 transmission with a Guard clutch type limit slip weights 100 lbs.


Thank you very much Randal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)

Thanks for the weight info, I only have an empty transmission case to weigh,
So they are almost equal, the 6 speed sequential being a little bit heavier .

Not a big issue since the Subaru will produce around 200hp more than the porsche 2,0L. However I'm aiming at 350~400HP.
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post Jan 7 2011, 04:03 PM
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Thanks for the info on that trans company! It looks like they have an option on one of their transmissions to match a bellhousing to the purchaser's engine.



Custom bellhousings can be made to customers specifications.....but like everything with this caliber transmissions: it comes with a pricetag....




But they are so cool!
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post Jan 7 2011, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Hontec @ Jan 7 2011, 03:03 PM) *

QUOTE(RJMII @ Jan 7 2011, 10:55 PM) *

Thanks for the info on that trans company! It looks like they have an option on one of their transmissions to match a bellhousing to the purchaser's engine.



Custom bellhousings can be made to customers specifications.....but like everything with this caliber transmissions: it comes with a pricetag....




But they are so cool!



It looked like the pricetag converted to about as much as it would cost for an adapter plate. (or what it *did* cost for an adapter plate when I bought one for my car.)
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post Jan 8 2011, 03:53 AM
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It looked like the pricetag converted to about as much as it would cost for an adapter plate. (or what it *did* cost for an adapter plate when I bought one for my car.)


True, but the adapterplates usually come with a flywheel , clutchplate etc.

With these transmissions you have to buy the bellhousings with the transmission because the input shaft will have to be custom built and splined to fit your specific application, not plug and play like an adapter plate/kit, you have to bring in your engine. Also most of these use a very expensive hydraulic clutch release bearing and not a slave cilinder....

The bellhousings are usually around 500 GBP, so 775 usd, a good AP or Tilton hydraulic release bearing around 300-600usd, then the shifter, gear indicator, potentiometer...etc etc etc....refab the trans mount etc...

Just to give an idea that the numbers roll upwards far quicker than with an adapterplate/flywheel kit like Kennedy....but in my opinion; once you've driven sequential....it will become an addiction....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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post Jan 16 2011, 04:45 AM
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Hi Randall, First time I've seen this thread, don't know how I missed it, but I did. Wow is all I can say - you are so obviously addicted to your welder, and what skills you possess!

I can't believe that with your experience and life with motor vehicles that you decided to build your dream from a little 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They really are underated little cars and seem to be driven by the worlds best people too!

Enjoyed my Sunday morning read, thankyou - now subscribed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 16 2011, 05:31 AM
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Hi Randall, First time I've seen this thread, don't know how I missed it, but I did. Wow is all I can say - you are so obviously addicted to your welder, and what skills you possess!

I can't believe that with your experience and life with motor vehicles that you decided to build your dream from a little 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They really are underated little cars and seem to be driven by the worlds best people too!

Enjoyed my Sunday morning read, thankyou - now subscribed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



Thanks for your positive input!! greatly appreciated!!!

Yes I am indeed addicted to my welder, I love to weld things! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In my quest to find a car for myself to modify, I stumbled across the 914 and fell in love with it. The RWD mid-engine setup lured me straight away and my thoughts were that this car has so much possibility for any kind of modification and layout...
I just had to buy one and go find out for myself!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The initial idea of converting it to 4WD is giving me more and more hassle with the yearly inspection guys, and I can't seem to be able to find even one guy in that department to sit down and have a constructive eye to eye talk with me in which I can explain and show my intentions........it's starting to wear me out to the point that I am now going for the tubeframe mid-engine rwd setup, just like stock, only with a Subaru engine and a sequential transmission...

Ok i bought most of the parts to go AWD, but it's not going to set me back much...

I'm currently building a rollcage for a friend but it will be finished soon and then back again full speed on the 914!!

I can't wait!!!

Thanks again for your positive input!

Randall
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post Jan 16 2011, 12:31 PM
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We love to see fab pictures, post some of the rollcage you are building.

-Britain
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post Jan 16 2011, 12:37 PM
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post Jan 16 2011, 02:47 PM
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Thanks again for your positive input!

Randall


Hey, no worries. Your right, the 914 is the most awesome little car out there.. I can understand why you want to do a 4wd version, and it's a shame that your countries red tape will stop you getting there, but in my opinion the 914 with it's low cog, and great engine positioning, especially with the subie lump makes for a perfect rwd beast. I'm sure you can get the ancillaries in the right locations to get the balance right and am sure you will. Are you going wide?? I for one one love to see this as a narrow car... I think it's more muscular with the right amout of rubber under the arches...
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post Jan 16 2011, 04:03 PM
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We love to see fab pictures, post some of the rollcage you are building.

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post Jan 16 2011, 04:05 PM
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Are you going wide?? I for one one love to see this as a narrow car... I think it's more muscular with the right amout of rubber under the arches...


Yes, I'm going wide......to which extend , I'm not sure yet..... GT. GT+ or Sheridan..
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post Jan 29 2011, 08:52 PM
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Your work is amazing!

Very neat project you have going.

Any updates!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Feb 2 2011, 02:14 PM
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Still busy with friends'cars....almost done....can't wait to get back to work on the 914.......


What's keeping me busy now: Building a full cage for a Nürburgring Honda Civic:


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Holy Crap...I see something on the floor in your shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Feb 2 2011, 07:31 PM
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Were you standing on the ladder for the 3rd shot or something solid?
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Yes, I'm going wide......to which extend , I'm not sure yet..... GT. GT+ or Sheridan..



Hi Randall,

I just had to add my admiration for your welding, engineering skills and Craftsmanship!
Your work is so good that you could work at any race shop in the world!

After seeing all the incredible work you did on your 914, I have been wondering where you learned your impressive skills and what type of work you do for a living. I have not been able to produce the level of work I was proud of until I was in my 50's, but you are still under 40 and so skilled!

Just my Opinion: the 914 is a tightly designed package engineered around a very Low Cg drive-train, mid-engine and rear wheel drive. To try to make it 4-wheel drive would simply take the car too far-afield of its origin. With the car's Low Polar Moment of Inertia, even 4-wheel drive would probably NOT help its "Bad manners" in the wet. Of course, Holland is WET a great deal of the time. (With my Chevy-V8 power, when it rains here in California, I won't even CONSIDER taking the car out, after the 75 MPH "tank-slapper" experience next to a BIG diesel rig in the rain, on a bridge, a couple years back.)

So I APPLAUD going to a TUBE-Frame with your 914 and suggest trying another car for 4-wheel drive fun. The Audi A4-S4 is a pretty impressive package to look at.

PLEASE keep all those GREAT photos coming! I learn from all your good work,

Best,
Terry
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