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> Tubeframe 914, Started work on my rear custom uprights
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post Feb 2 2011, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Feb 2 2011, 02:18 PM) *

Holy Crap...I see something on the floor in your shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Feb 2 2011, 11:18 PM) *

Holy Crap...I see something on the floor in your shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(Krieger @ Feb 3 2011, 02:31 AM) *

Were you standing on the ladder for the 3rd shot or something solid?


There's an attic there.....always a nice pic from above...
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post Feb 3 2011, 02:59 AM
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Are you going wide?? I for one one love to see this as a narrow car... I think it's more muscular with the right amout of rubber under the arches...


Yes, I'm going wide......to which extend , I'm not sure yet..... GT. GT+ or Sheridan..



Hi Randall,

I just had to add my admiration for your welding, engineering skills and Craftsmanship!
Your work is so good that you could work at any race shop in the world!

After seeing all the incredible work you did on your 914, I have been wondering where you learned your impressive skills and what type of work you do for a living. I have not been able to produce the level of work I was proud of until I was in my 50's, but you are still under 40 and so skilled!

Just my Opinion: the 914 is a tightly designed package engineered around a very Low Cg drive-train, mid-engine and rear wheel drive. To try to make it 4-wheel drive would simply take the car too far-afield of its origin. With the car's Low Polar Moment of Inertia, even 4-wheel drive would probably NOT help its "Bad manners" in the wet. Of course, Holland is WET a great deal of the time. (With my Chevy-V8 power, when it rains here in California, I won't even CONSIDER taking the car out, after the 75 MPH "tank-slapper" experience next to a BIG diesel rig in the rain, on a bridge, a couple years back.)

So I APPLAUD going to a TUBE-Frame with your 914 and suggest trying another car for 4-wheel drive fun. The Audi A4-S4 is a pretty impressive package to look at.

PLEASE keep all those GREAT photos coming! I learn from all your good work,

Best,
Terry



Thank you for the compliment!

I started working on cars in my uncle's garage from age 10 in the holidays, so I've been wrenching now for 27 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

He taught me welding as well, gave me a welder and an old Mercedes and told me to replace the bottom......and from there it went wrong........never stopped again.....I love to weld!

The 4wd 914 idea I have to abandon, I fear I'm going to hit a wall when it comes to the paperwork/burocracy here....I tried, but I have gotten no coöperation or even someone that will listen.... So unfortunately I give up...

I'm keeping it RWD but with a sequential transmission...

Ow and my daily job is flying a Boeing 747..I did have a company where we built race/rally cars and even built Dakar cars but I quit, having my own company is not something I enjoyed.


Thanks and best regards

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post Feb 3 2011, 09:23 AM
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Randall
will you build a full tube frame or a part tube frame like
the "Anklebiter" build?

I love your work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Feb 3 2011, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(DEC @ Feb 3 2011, 04:23 PM) *

Randall
will you build a full tube frame or a part tube frame like
the "Anklebiter" build?

I love your work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)



Hello Wilco,

I first want to take off the fenders, have it mediablasted and then remove the complete inside. Then I will start to tubeframe it. Since I would like to make the suspension a double wishbone, I will re-design the complete rear. If possible, I would like to keep the stock inner fenders, but I think they will go in the end.
That all depends on what type of fenders I will re-install.. as of now, I will have them made in dry carbon.

But first of all we'll start stripping and see where we go from there....

So many ideas...........
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post Feb 8 2011, 12:24 PM
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Finally found time today to start work on the right-side door jig. Will probably finish it tomorrow, then a few small things to add to the jig and then we can start the actual work on the chassis....yeah!!! can't wait.




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post Feb 8 2011, 01:08 PM
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Unbelievable welding work and body bracing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Make this in 2 or 3 parts with a pin to connect the parts, and you'll probably sell all the body shops and some members. Best I've seen on rebuild posts.
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post Feb 8 2011, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(bandjoey @ Feb 8 2011, 08:08 PM) *

Unbelievable welding work and body bracing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Make this in 2 or 3 parts with a pin to connect the parts, and you'll probably sell all the body shops and some members. Best I've seen on rebuild posts.


Thanks! but to be honest, one jig for now is enough.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) this was an inmense job and not to mention if I add up all steel and materials.....a pretty expensive one....
I've already had offers for this thing, but I'm quite sure I'm going to need this for a while... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 8 2011, 02:22 PM
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Also sent my fuel gauge to BigMark, this is what it's going to become, except the silver center button...that's deleted.

I am so in love with this thing, absolute art:



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post Feb 8 2011, 02:35 PM
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Man that's an impressive jig! I really enjoy seeing other peoples projects that involve this level of fab work. Keep up the great work.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
You, Sir, beyond an Artist! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Never fails to amaze me your level of perfection.
And so simple.

Thanks for taking the time to show us your progress!
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:36 AM
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Thanks guys for all the positive reactions! Hope you guys are not getting sick of all the pictures, I'm also taking them as reference for the rebuild.

Today I finished the right door jig. I had forgotten how much work it was to build one.....but it's done.....


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Also since the jig is done and I can start actual work on the chassis, I started pulling it apart to take to the powdercoater. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)





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Hope you guys are not getting sick of all the pictures,

Ummmmmm....... no. Can you post more pictures please. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Powdercoating is really thick. Are you concerned about that added thickness affecting how your jigs fit? I would think plating would be preferable because of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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QUOTE(Hontec @ Feb 8 2011, 03:22 PM) *

Also sent my fuel gauge to BigMark, this is what it's going to become, except the silver center button...that's deleted.

I am so in love with this thing, absolute art:



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You will be Very Happy with the results ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hope you guys are not getting sick of all the pictures,

Ummmmmm....... no. Can you post more pictures please. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Powdercoating is really thick. Are you concerned about that added thickness affecting how your jigs fit? I would think plating would be preferable because of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



In anticipation of that I overdrilled the holes in the jig 0,5mm.

I know the coating guy very well, I will ask him to coat a thin layer with a limited amount of microns.


To be honest, when I put her on and measured I already had a few mm of difference in the chassis, compared to the modern race car next to it, it's nothing.
My other reasoning is that the only difference it will create is a few microns of coating, I've had so many things coated with this guy, from chassis to engine parts and never had fitting issues before...

If I incorporate the difference in each direction, I will still be ok, chassiswise...

And if there is really no other way, I'll blank the contact patches and primer them lightly...

Then again; how many microns of material get lost with the blasting? (purely scientifically?)
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Today I removed the right rear Fender and right door sill. Actually not bad what was beneath, the Hellhole repair can be seen very well and it's going to be replaced by a new part.

Somebody had a good old party with filler, the rear corner and the part over the vent hole were completely filled up by this stuff and luckily no water had caught underneath so the steel below is free of rust.. Also the sail panel is in excellent condition, only some minor surface rust on the little sill on there..

Although it looked grimm, when I cleaned it up a little it was actually pretty good...

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Nice, how long did it take you to drill out all the welds? Removing the whole quarter panel seems much cleaner then slicing the quarter just to get at the long area.
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QUOTE(sawtooth @ Feb 10 2011, 10:22 PM) *

Nice, how long did it take you to drill out all the welds? Removing the whole quarter panel seems much cleaner then slicing the quarter just to get at the long area.



It took me 4-1/2 hours to do this including the doorsill... I'm glad i took the whole fender off instead of cutting a piece out...Now everything is easily accesible for welding.
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