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| tscrihfield |
 Oct 4 2011, 08:21 PM
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Drive Fast and Take Chances  Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 8-September 10 From: Amelia Ohio Member No.: 12,156 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(MDG @ Oct 4 2011, 10:06 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Completely Agree! I am in complete aw of what is going on with this thread! Hontec, when you finish this car you are going to have to replace all of the Porsche badges with ("Your Last Name here") Badges! When you start it up you will have to dress as Dr. Frakenstein, and scream "Its Alive!" |
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| Hontec |
Oct 5 2011, 01:17 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
Thanks guys for all the positive words!
QUOTE(tscrihfield @ Oct 5 2011, 04:21 AM) QUOTE(MDG @ Oct 4 2011, 10:06 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Completely Agree! I am in complete aw of what is going on with this thread! Hontec, when you finish this car you are going to have to replace all of the Porsche badges with ("Your Last Name here") Badges! When you start it up you will have to dress as Dr. Frakenstein, and scream "Its Alive!" Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I wouldn't go so far as to give it my own name but it's just a vision I have of the car and how I want it to be. My vision is to have a 914 that looks stock when you sit in it, except for a rollcage ,but when you open up the front and rear, it's high tech all the way.... Thanks Randall |
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| partwerks |
Oct 5 2011, 05:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
I didn't realize that the floor pans were plug welded, but then I haven't seen what was under the caulking either.
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| wingnut86 |
Oct 5 2011, 06:58 AM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
Eventually you will have a buddy reproduce the core piece via cnc block?
Pricepoint? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| wingnut86 |
Oct 5 2011, 07:00 AM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
P.S. Your welds are pure mech-head porn maan...
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| Chris Pincetich |
Oct 5 2011, 01:41 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks again for making the project more complex and amazing to watch unfold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Hontec |
Oct 7 2011, 05:28 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(wingnut86 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:58 PM) Eventually you will have a buddy reproduce the core piece via cnc block? Pricepoint? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Yes I will, but before I do that I'm going to make a new set with the larger 911 bearings, somehow I keep having trouble with the 108mm stubs in the stock 914 bearing carriers. The larger cap that is pressed onto the rear of the bearing carrier seems to be offcentered in such a way that it is eccentric and the larger 108mm stub keeps rubbing it...This has no consequence for centricity of the hub/stub only I cannot use the 108mm stub and have to use the 944Turbo 100mm stub axle with these uprights. So I will make these ones for initial use and then make new ones that I will use to have reproduced in aluminium... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Hontec |
Oct 7 2011, 05:29 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Oct 5 2011, 09:41 PM) Thanks again for making the project more complex and amazing to watch unfold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Thanks! I like to make things complex somehow: gives me some weird kind of satisfaction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| mark21742 |
Oct 7 2011, 05:41 AM
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You could also look at 04-06 GTO rear stubs for an alternative for some more strength.....mine has held over 600hp and 600ftlbs of torque through slicks for over 4 years now, and runs a similar parking brake shoes inside the rotors like the Porsche
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| Hontec |
Oct 7 2011, 07:46 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(mark21742 @ Oct 7 2011, 01:41 PM) You could also look at 04-06 GTO rear stubs for an alternative for some more strength.....mine has held over 600hp and 600ftlbs of torque through slicks for over 4 years now, and runs a similar parking brake shoes inside the rotors like the Porsche They fit into the 911 Hubs? do you have a picture perhaps? On the other side, I don't think I'm going to run into trouble with the 944 turbo stubs. |
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| mark21742 |
Oct 7 2011, 08:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 31-August 11 From: pa Member No.: 13,502 Region Association: North East States |
I don't have any pictures, I was thinking more along the lines of fanning a hub up like you did for this one
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| Brett W |
Oct 7 2011, 08:53 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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Randall you could chuck the 108 stub up in a lathe and turn it down slightly and that might give you the clearance you need, but I like the idea of building another upright with more clearance.
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| andys |
Oct 7 2011, 09:55 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(wingnut86 @ Oct 5 2011, 05:58 AM) Eventually you will have a buddy reproduce the core piece via cnc block? Pricepoint? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) It would most certainly take "a buddy" to do the work for cheap. I looked into reproducing the bearing carrier pictured in post #331 that uses the larger 911 bearing when considering a custom trailing arm offering. The up front costs for the first best quantity price break was simply more than I was willing to entertain. I think it's far easier to use a bolt on bearing carrier like the Corvette. I also went so far as to machine a set of bearing carriers from aluminum (pictured) thinking I might do a set of aluminum trailing arms, however the post fabrication (welding) multi step heat treating schedule made that cost prohibitive; also the potential for fatgue failure wasn't worth the risk. Andys Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Hontec |
Oct 7 2011, 11:43 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 7 2011, 04:53 PM) Randall you could chuck the 108 stub up in a lathe and turn it down slightly and that might give you the clearance you need, but I like the idea of building another upright with more clearance. I agree, but like you said yourself: better make another with a larger bearing.. |
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| Hontec |
Oct 7 2011, 12:00 PM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(andys @ Oct 7 2011, 05:55 PM) QUOTE(wingnut86 @ Oct 5 2011, 05:58 AM) Eventually you will have a buddy reproduce the core piece via cnc block? Pricepoint? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) It would most certainly take "a buddy" to do the work for cheap. I looked into reproducing the bearing carrier pictured in post #331 that uses the larger 911 bearing when considering a custom trailing arm offering. The up front costs for the first best quantity price break was simply more than I was willing to entertain. I think it's far easier to use a bolt on bearing carrier like the Corvette. I also went so far as to machine a set of bearing carriers from aluminum (pictured) thinking I might do a set of aluminum trailing arms, however the post fabrication (welding) multi step heat treating schedule made that cost prohibitive; also the potential for fatgue failure wasn't worth the risk. Andys I have a buddy with 3 state of the art cnc machines, we can use the machines in weekends when they are not in use for production. My only cost is the raw material and beer.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Your aluminium bearing carriers look very nice, but my initial choice would be steel, unless you make a complete aluminium hub. Also an idea is a bolt on complete hub like the lotus Elise.....I also toy with the same idea as Britain; using the complete lotus suspension.... plenty of ideas........I'm now building a hydraulic bending machine to make the new guts for the 914. I'll finish both hubs for fitment later on and my intention is to make a flat bottom from front to rear where the wishbones will be attached to. That part will at the same time be the frame for the engine/transmission. I also want to have the option to mount the original trailing arms and I will tie in the Tangerine racing mounts into the cage. The reason for this is simply that if the inspector at the yearly checkup does not approve of my double wishbone, I can change this in an hour or so, so that I comply and they do not revoke my registration... |
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| clow |
Feb 17 2012, 07:23 PM
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The Kid Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 7-September 10 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 12,151 Region Association: Canada |
Any updates!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| wingnut86 |
Feb 18 2012, 12:20 AM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
I looked up into the sky the other day and thought I saw him waving at me out of the window of his favorite 747 Stretch.
The tail number was 914-FABKING or similar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| Hontec |
Feb 24 2012, 01:24 PM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
In fact I am busy with the 914 again, been a bit pre-occupied with the start of the rally season and the brandnew Citroën DS3-R3 rallycar I've been building the past months (DS3)
But I'm trying a new concept for my rear drivetrain. Hope this idea will be what I expect, 99,999% sure this is a keeper.... Pics wil be up soon! |
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