914/6 engine serial numbers Options

[tpines]

I'm looking for the matching engine to my car; number is 6405733.

More info.

We are still looking for this engine to our 914-6. If you know there where abouts of engine # 6405733 please let us know. Thanks!

Clark
Makellos Classics
7606705327

[rick 918-S]

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=276026

Link to a classified from thomasotten has engine # 6404302 901/38

[Niklas]

I have bought case 6404036 - 901/38.
An empty case so now i need the rest....

[dug]

Engine 6404249 posted on pelican here:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...tml#post9046973

[norton]

I've had a 914-6 engine, serial number 6404249 for about a dozen years. It's time to do something with this engine and ideally I’d like to put the engine and original car back together. Is there a 914-6 registry or some other way to determine if the original chassis still exists for this engine and the current owner’s contact information?

Thanks,

--John

[Towarish]

Is 640 4027 on your list ?

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige...760807-223-1716

Where do I find the complete list here at the forum ?

[sixaddict]

Well I am joining the lost engine crowd. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Looking for 6405049

I have 6404573 and 6404324
Thanks

[bobm]

Looking for 6404555 for my 1970 9140430960
adriatic blue
Sacto area
Bob

[dug]

Hi Towarish,
Thanks for posting the link.

There isn't a list of 914-6 engine numbers, and you cannot ask Porsche to reverse look up the chassis for an engine, they only will tell you the engine number for your car via the COA.

I can tell you that with a low number like that it will be very close to the engine, but not exact still because of the different sequence for euro and US engine serials.
I have engine 4026 is in #36 and 4028 is in #48. So it's probably from chassis 37 to 47.

cheers,
dug

Is 640 4027 on your list ?

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige...760807-223-1716

Where do I find the complete list here at the forum ?

[Cairo94507]

6414135 ..... that's the number I need. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[Cornerlot]

Looking for the 914-6 engine serial number 6400875.

A European 901/36 version, apparently removed while in the Netherlands during 1985-1999.

Steve

[jmz]

looking for 6405179

[SixerJ]

Currently in the FS section

6405080

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=292144

[dug]

For those selling 914-6 engine cases and those thinking about acquiring the original engine case for their car. Here is my opinion on values:

I've been tracking 914-6 sale prices for the last 10 years. During the big bump over the last 2 years, the average sale (actual sales not just asking) price of a numbers matching car vs a non-numbers matching car is a $20k difference. However, it is not just the engine that makes this price gap. Most of the cars with a numbers matching engine are also more original, better cared for examples.

I have run across a few 914-6 engines that are being offered for 5 figure prices. Others have been purchased and then immediately offered for 2 or 3x the price, even as a bare case. Some have been sitting in the back of a shop for 30 years, in "as removed" condition.

A complete engine that was removed in the 80s for an upgrade and has just been sitting indoors may have an engine case in better condition than one that has been apart or stored in a less weatherproof environment, but if it is not currently running with compression and leakdown numbers, it's just as much of a mystery internally. It's highly likely that the car had 100k miles on it in during it's first 10 years on the road, and most if not all of the parts in that engine are worn out, which is why the swap was done in the first place instead of a rebuild.

As an example of what it will take to get the case back to operational condition, I sent my own numbers matching 914-6 engine to Ollie's last month. The engine case looked in fine condition with no visible damage or modifications. I didn't order any extra special racing mods, just the standard upgrades that any engine rebuild should consider like oil bypass mod, piston squirters and stud inserts. But because most if not all magnesium cases warp with heat and age, Ollie's says almost all mag cases and even most Aluminum cases they get these days require align boring.

So the complete list was:
Inspect
Align bore
Spot face through bolt holes
Head stud inserts
Weld at #3
Media Tumble
R&R oil plugs
Hot Tank
Oil Bypass Mod
Install Piston oil squirters

The total was $2462, just to prep the case.

The rest of the rebuild costs will depend on what your tastes and goals are, but the minimum is $10k if you don't want to do it again.

So, no your old dirty rusty corroding pile of 69 911T parts is not worth $10k. I sold a case to a user here to re-unite with it's chassis for $1500. The rest of the original parts are effectively worthless. T cranks are $300 even if they are std/std. 69T heads, no one wants them. 2.0 rods are $100 a set. T cams worthless. Cam housings and chain boxes also valueless, I have 5 extra sets and so does everyone else. Early 11 blade fans are worth $300, if they aren't chipped with rusty pulleys. Worn out Zeniths are $500. So maybe that old pile of parts you have there is worth $2500.

So what is a numbers matching engine worth? If it's a running driving engine in the car with induction, it has an ~$10-15k bump to the value of the car. Which makes it worth buying a $1500-2500 engine case and spending the $15k to rebuild it and get it in the car. But I would not recommend that anyone spend $10k+ for a core engine or just an engine case in unknown condition.

Remember when negotiating, as the person with the matching chassis you are the ONLY person in the world that values that engine case. No one else can do anything with it that makes sense. And as the person with the engine case, remember that the 914-6 owner has to do a lot of expensive work to do to even make it usable. So quit trying to cash in on the $10k price differential when you got that old dirty thing in your shed for a few hundred bucks at a swap meet way back when.

cheers,
dug

[gandalf_025]

Sorry, But I'd think
If you can actually find your matching number case,...... BUY IT.. It will never be worth less to the owner of the car...
Not to say you don't negotiate the price if you can...

Seriously... What it adds to the value today may be one thing, but in the future can't be determined. Who ever thought these cars would be worth what they are in today's market ??

My original engine is sitting on a shelf in my garage..36,000 miles and never been apart.. What does that add to the value of my car ????
It will never go back into the car in my lifetime... Not worth the risk of damaging it..

just saying...

[billh1963]

Porsche 914-6 Engine Case Block #6404216

914-6 case on ebay

[Cairo94507]

If my original engine/case ever popped up, 6414135, I would try to buy it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

[Beach914]

6414044 case is on los Angeles Craigslist. It looked pretty bad and needs some weld repair. Its listed in an ad with other 911 cases.

[dug]

6414044 is new on the list. Asking price in the CL ad is $1800 each or "buy all three" meaning in a pkg with the other 911 cases. I noted the phone number in case someone needs it.

6414044 case is on los Angeles Craigslist. It looked pretty bad and needs some weld repair. Its listed in an ad with other 911 cases.

[gandalf_025]

Just saw someone post in the garage that they have a 6 with it's matching # engine.

I have engine 6405500 and would like to find the car it belongs to..

Without giving someone else's info, lets just say if they run reasonably close, 5500 should belong to a car in the early 32300 range..

If that is you... let me know...