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rick 918-S |
Nov 1 2010, 04:51 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,783 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Cool NARP photo! Just like Herbie!
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windforfun |
Nov 1 2010, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Nice fart.
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poorsche914 |
Nov 1 2010, 04:56 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
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r_towle |
Nov 1 2010, 05:56 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
First, you cant trust a cold compression test. It will give you false readings that are meaningless.
Second..start it up after you change the oil and filter. Run it for a long time to heat up the motor and the exhaust...get all the oil burned out of the muffler... Do a compression test right after you shut it off. Take out all the plugs, open up the throttle body and fix it there. Use a threaded hose type compression tester. Remove the relay for the fuel pump so you dont fill up the cylinders with fuel again. Turn over the motor for the same number of seconds per cylinder. Post those readings...a warm compression test. Rich |
poorsche914 |
Nov 1 2010, 06:00 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks, Rich.
Been planning to get a warm compression test once I got the thing running. Hope to have some numbers to post tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
r_towle |
Nov 1 2010, 07:06 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
if its close...re-torque the heads and test it again.
most of these motors need the heads re-torqued. Rich |
Black22 |
Nov 1 2010, 07:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My car did everything you described...white smoke...oil/gas puking out of the tail pipe. If there is gas in your oil in the case, check the fuel injectors. Turns out one of mine was stuck in the open position and caused it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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hot_shoe914 |
Nov 1 2010, 07:59 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,806 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
I say you sell that POS to some dumbass in west Tennessee with a black one so he will have a matching pair for say oh,300.00 to 500.00 since it doest run and will have to be towed to the other end of the state! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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poorsche914 |
Nov 1 2010, 08:46 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
My car did everything you described...white smoke...oil/gas puking out of the tail pipe. If there is gas in your oil in the case, check the fuel injectors. Turns out one of mine was stuck in the open position and caused it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Hmmm... I did check to be sure the injectors were firing properly and they are. Not stuck open at least. Good spray pattern. Pretty sure it is from cranking it so much without firing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Thanks for the input. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
poorsche914 |
Nov 1 2010, 08:51 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
I say you sell that POS to some dumbass in west Tennessee with a black one so he will have a matching pair for say oh,300.00 to 500.00 since it doest run and will have to be towed to the other end of the state! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) That would be cool to have a Bumble Bee and a Creamsicle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Root_Werks |
Nov 2 2010, 10:53 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,481 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Kinda read through all the posts, even the Sharting one.
If it were me, I'd do a proper warm up on the engine, drive it if you can. Those compression numbers aren't that bad at all and #4 that fell a little under 100psig might come up within spec after driving it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) As others have said, change the oil, make sure it's as good as can be. If it's been sitting, it's worse off then if it had been driven. |
underthetire |
Nov 2 2010, 10:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
If it's been sitting, I would run some mystery oil through it, might help loosen up the rings and such. Made a huge difference in mine when I first got it. That was 15K miles ago.
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poorsche914 |
Nov 2 2010, 11:00 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
If it's been sitting, I would run some mystery oil through it, might help loosen up the rings and such. Made a huge difference in mine when I first got it. That was 15K miles ago. Do I add the Mystery Oil to the gas or oil? I actually have some that I bought for something else and never used. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
underthetire |
Nov 2 2010, 11:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Oil,er, both. I ran it in the oil, cleans carbon out quick like. I ran it for about 200 miles then changed the oil and filter out. Always start with cheap oil on a motor thats been sitting, cause your gonna want to change it right away again. As far as putting it in the fuel, it does help injectors and clean the valves, but I guess so would injector cleaner.
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poorsche914 |
Nov 2 2010, 11:11 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks, Jeff. Heading outside shortly to work on it.
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poorsche914 |
Nov 2 2010, 12:20 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Update: oil and filter changed. Mystery oil added. Started right up. Smoking like crazy (how long should I expect it to take to burn all that oil out?) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
Plugs 1,2,3 were dry oily. 4 was clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Here are compression numbers with motor warm: 1 = 130 2 = 135 3 = 128 4 = 105 Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
messix |
Nov 2 2010, 12:26 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
how long did it run with the gassy oil in it?
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poorsche914 |
Nov 2 2010, 12:33 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Ran for about a minute. Maybe less.
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underthetire |
Nov 2 2010, 12:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Get it warm. Mystery oil works better after a warm up. It may also cause some smoke, since it's super thin. I'd say 15 minutes and you should start to see it clear up.
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messix |
Nov 2 2010, 01:08 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
get out and put it under a load. give it a couple of good hard pulls through the gears.
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