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> karlo's 914 V8 adventures, ... and misadventures
sean_v8_914
post Dec 17 2010, 08:34 AM
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post Dec 17 2010, 08:36 AM
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I like this one too but doesnt show area of discussion well enough


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post Dec 17 2010, 08:37 AM
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since we are talking about messed up chassis...center tunel pic is good to have


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post Dec 18 2010, 05:13 PM
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This is not the best pic but may be helpful

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post Dec 18 2010, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(roadster fan @ Dec 19 2010, 12:13 AM) *

This is not the best pic but may be helpful

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Thanks for the illustrations, guys. I will have Sean cut open the long to see what needs to be done. This is something I want to get sorted out as soon as possible.
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post Dec 19 2010, 08:38 AM
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thank you. that view shows the two different layers of steel
now that it is opened up nicely, you can treat the inside rust and make a true assesment of structural integrity
coujld you show us a photo of the inside bottom?
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post Jan 8 2011, 02:51 AM
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The car has found its way to Sean's shop where the long was cut open to assess the damage. So far, things are looking good, mainly only surface rust on the inside. The surrounding panels need to be replaced, hopefully it won't take too much time.

I've been shopping for new gears, synchronizers, dogteeth and sliders for the 915 transmission. Preliminary assembly of the gear stacks looks like this (haven't pressed everything in place yet):

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Looks like I might have a transmission yet.

The ring and pinion has fortunately not suffered any damage. The input shaft measures .0045" runout. Stepped by Wholesale Automotive Machine here in San Diego, but they thought they would only make things worse by attempting to straighten it, and opined that it should be too little to matter. Apparently, .003" is the permissible runout. Any suggestions for how to proceed?
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:27 AM
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assemble and run it till it spits chuncks
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post Jan 17 2011, 11:42 AM
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grinding, cleaning, cutting...
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post Jan 22 2011, 11:02 AM
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compared to others, this chassis is fairly solid. that does not mean it is free of isuses. the main issue I saw that needed correction was that the rear area spot welds were letting go. once this happens, things start to move and stress turns to cracks and further seam separation. most of the rust came from the "rust incubators AKA rocker panels

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post Jan 22 2011, 11:09 AM
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the rust seems to weaken the spot welds. then they move and pull untill they start to separate.
I drill w spot weld bit in between the original spots, then I add new spot welds and stich it together. this spot weld issue is most common on teh suspension ears. once they come apart, the cracks turn to rips. this chassis was in teh infancy stage of this so there were no rips yet. inside the ears were fairly clean, a rare find on right side


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post Jan 22 2011, 11:24 AM
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My friend Bruce Stone, known here as the Porsche pedal set rebuilding guru and artist turned me on to this image hosting site I am playing with. I hope it works.
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post Jan 22 2011, 11:39 AM
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this might be overkill but Im playing with it

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post Jan 22 2011, 11:40 AM
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the images with "sm" at the end of the name are small low resolution
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post Jan 25 2011, 03:34 AM
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While the car is in for welding, I've been working to complete the 915. The problem with transmission rebuilding, is of course the need for a multitude of special tools. To torque on the nut for the main shaft, P 252A is required. We got a huge 1 5/8" socket from Sears ($20) and hacked it apart:

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Lots of work just to put some torque on a nut, but works like a charm:

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post Jan 25 2011, 08:21 AM
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that stupid crack by the E brake made me chase it all the way under the long. it wrapped under the floor then up 3.5 inches forward.
REMEMBER THAT ZINC AND GALVANIZED FUMES ARE TOXIC
good thing I can still hold my breath for about 2 minutes (your tax dollars hard at work)
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:16 AM
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good thing I can still hold my breath for about 2 minutes (your tax dollars hard at work)


What does holding your breath have to do with tax dollars at work?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:34 AM
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(tax payer financed) Navy training to hold breath for long time
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post Jan 25 2011, 10:08 AM
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post Jan 25 2011, 10:38 PM
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