Palindrome 914 Build Thread, now on the chassis jig Options

[ONTHEGRIND]

Thanks for the response.. Great thread info like this save's these rust buckets. I can call them that cause I have filled up a bucket of rust lol..

[nathansnathan]

How much of the inner long is double walled Im currently in the process of replacing my rear pans and the bottom of my inner longs have some rust and pitting .. Im trying to figure the best way to repair before I weld the floors in place..in my photo you can see some minor rust where the pans sits against the long but on the outside the metal looks fairly fresh..

Should I weld the holes closed and put the pan in or cut out the bad stuff and patch in a new piece If its double walled the inner piece is un rusted as I can see down in the there

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That part is double walled. You can't see it as clearly on the RD piece, but it is there, the indent for the floor that lines up with the indent you have in your pic.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-11782-1327778514.jpg)

Ideally you could get the pitting to be all white metal with a spot blaster, but you could weld that as is I think, especially with a mig. If it's solid inside, I wouldn't cut. I think it would be making it harder and all the burn from welding in a patch woulds be worse than what you have, which seems not too bad. Some small plug welds seem best from there, trying to not burn the factory weld through too much. Seems you'll want to run a wand up the inside to treat it after, though.

[nathansnathan]

I was reading through, planning what to do next. I changed the thread name, too, to be incognito as most views of the forums are during the work week. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I updated the first post explaining, and also put up pics of my front trunk vin plate, window vin, kunstharslack plate, rear trunk chassis stamp, as well as my dash number which should match my chassis number, but doesn't.

[nathansnathan]

I saw you sort of correct yourself after the first pic, but I wanted to set this straight. The inner goes all the way to the trunk. There is a flange off the rear of the inner that is spot welded to the front of the trunk. I did an outline pick in post 110, it is a bit harder to see, but outlined in blue, the inner piece. at that point it is short about 15 inches at the back.
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I'm going to work on my firewall right now, or after lunch actually. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What you're working on right now is the long. The inner long is the continuation of the same piece that goes up the wheel well in the engine compartment.
It only has a small section that is double layered.
In the blue box.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1608-1387170211.jpg)

But to answer the original question. The portion outlined below in blue is the actual inner layer that Nathan exposed after he removed the outer layer. It does go further up the inner long but I can't remember exactly where it stops.

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I'm going exit before I get run out of town for being a hijacker. LOL.

Hijacker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I have been subscribed to your thread for awhile now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

[nathansnathan]

I had some issues a few weeks ago fitting the engine mount. The details of that are in this thread

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...997390&st=0

I was pretty bummed out and didn't know what to do. My friend Derek sent me a link to this chassis jig. I posted about it in this thread of Cary's

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...997390&st=0

It is finally here at my studio. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)





I was pretty impressed, and slightly frightened, with how the guy got it off the truck by angling it down the lift gate, at one point, with the pallete jack hanging out under it from the back. He actually moved the truck forward while it was halfway out then lowered it the rest of the way down with the lift gate. Somehow he moved the whole thing with a pallete jack while my neighbor and I dragged/slid the back of it into place in my parking spot there. 1000Lbs with the other boxes in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I got the unistrut from Unistrut direct- the guy actually drove it over from Bellflower over to my mailbox in Irvine.

I got the threaded rod and 3/4" hardware, but couldn't figure out what smaller hardware I'd need in advance. I put an order with mcmaster carr to get the rest of it quick. I don't have room for it in my studio with the car being on stands in there. I need to assemble it and roll it under the car, but can't do that until the hardware comes, maybe tomorrow. I can't wait to see it just up on there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[cary]

Cool ...................

[nathansnathan]

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[cary]

Can you post some detailed shots of how your attaching the body to the jig?

With your fabricating skills any thoughts of building shock tower hold downs like the Celette has? Following Rick's idea.

Without a lift it looks like its a bit of a bitch getting it on there.

[nathansnathan]

Can you post some detailed shots of how your attaching the body to the jig?

With your fabricating skills any thoughts of building shock tower hold downs like the Celette has? Following Rick's idea.

Without a lift it looks like its a bit of a bitch getting it on there.

Currently it's sitting on 2 spans of channel, 1 under the rear firewall and at the front under the pedal area. I'll definitely post pics once I have some progress.

I've got to get it leveled, which I don't see how you could do with swivel casters. I'm going to make some leveling feet. I need to some more hardware still.

It was a chore getting it on there, took about 4 hours raising it up - ridiculously high, like 8 inches higher than in the pic above, but I was too busy to get a pic, I thought the wind might blow it down.

It was raining a bit too. I had a drop cloth over it outside a day because I forgot to buy the fat half inch fender washers for the bottom. The palette, I'd put on top of it to keep the wind from blowing the drop cloth away. It mostly worked, but 2 pools formed on each side, and pulled the cloth off the middle of the one side. There are pretty crazy storms going on the past few days.

I finally got it up and in, and it is so tall!. It makes me think that a mini monster truck 914 would be really cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

About the fixtures for the shock towers, that was something that I was struggling with, for both the front and the back. Talking to the guy at JD2, it seems the way it is done on a jig is to mount the struts/shocks themselves to the car and measure off of them.

I think the difference between a jig and a rack is the latter is so rigid and stout that you can leverage against it to straighten what is bent or "pull" the car. On the jig, the channel strut is the limiting factor to be sure, especially torsionally.

[nathansnathan]

There is this info in the specs book that I will check against.

It lists the track of the front as

1331mm or 1343 with 4 1/2 or 5 1/2 inch rims, respectively.

[nathansnathan]

I've been setting it up, I've cut and filed the ends of 22 1 foot lengths of 3/4" threaded rod, so far. More still to do. I need to get 1 1/2" threaded rod for the leveling feet, some more hardware, and to make some fixtures, probably 1/2 inch plate, I am thinking..

[sixnotfour]

where did he go ?? hope all is good

[David Billo]

Been wondering the same thing.

[mbseto]

Hope so too. This thread has been a great 914 anatomy reference for me.

[sixnotfour]

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[FlacaProductions]

It's not looking encouraging....
nathansnathan - Last Active: 1st June 2017 - 02:48 PM

[sixnotfour]

From: Laguna Beach, CA

I knowCA. > Is Huge >>Butt>>>
I sent an email.... we gotta track a brother down...he was no casual....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[ctc911ctc]

Wellness Check? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

From: Laguna Beach, CA

I knowCA. > Is Huge >>Butt>>>
I sent an email.... we gotta track a brother down...he was no casual....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[sixnotfour]

@jim_hoyland

he registered for WCR2016

@JRUST

[76-914]

@nathansnathan The world wants to know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Or possibly @Beach914 as he had dealings with him and lived near by?