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> Any body doing this ? 914 w/Hayabusa motor . ?, pro's con's , support or poke holes. Wtb : your 2 cents
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post Dec 16 2010, 02:10 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-SUZUKI-H...ht_10790wt_1167





Just wondering would this engine be viable for a conversion .

It makes good power . small , water cooled . f. i . wet sump .

Is it as simple as toss the type 4 . clutch adapter kit and wiring

or is it much more complex .


The radiator is Tiny . smaller then most oil coolers ? so It would not need front mounted huge heat exchanger ?

for some reason it runs right next to the header pipe ???

Please give me your thought's .

pro's

con's

cost s

ability to go back to type 4 motor if desired ?

hey o .

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post Dec 16 2010, 02:16 PM
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Plenty of busa conversions, havn't seen one in a 914. Initial torque might be an issue.

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post Dec 16 2010, 02:35 PM
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Naw, save these motors for conversions into Smart Cars and old school Minis, they really make those cars fly!

I wondor how one would work in a LoCost (Lotus 7 homemade replica).
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post Dec 16 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 16 2010, 12:10 PM) *
Please give me your thought's .

Do a search ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


It's been discussed before. In length ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Dec 16 2010, 02:41 PM
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I've been eyeballing these units for sometime now. My plan is to build a sandrail (the Baracuda by the EDGE) with a 'busa power plant.

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Rear dif with reverse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Chain drive with rear sprocket as large as 72 tooth
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Limited slip differential or solid axle
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post Dec 16 2010, 02:43 PM
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my $.02 would be: just do it. stop hashing it out and do it. If you do it right, you will prove one way or the other and you will know what broke in the process. The mythbusters would be proud.
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post Dec 16 2010, 04:26 PM
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I want the V8 version like the one Radical sells for $$$$. Someone in the midwest used to make the crankcase assembly's that you bolted 2 sets of cylinders and heads onto.
2.6 liters of screaming little V8 would be a blast in a 914.
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post Dec 16 2010, 04:30 PM
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post Dec 16 2010, 04:43 PM
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too rich for my blood...as said on commercials..I could of had a V8...
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post Dec 16 2010, 05:17 PM
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too rich for my blood...as said on commercials..I could of had a V8...



I agree that h1 v8 / ocho is too much $

the 4 cyc busa on ebay is pushing it at . 4.5 k

I think i'll start letting budget navigate for a moment

and see what alternative motors that yields / ?

but for 27 k i'd have to go / Ford COsworth Subaru engine ?

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http://www.cosworthusa.com/store/pc/viewCa...sp?idCategory=2



and anybody know if you could get 400 horse from a por.6

naturally asp . that would rev to 10 k .

you'd be thinking expensive motor every time you blew it up !!!

I assume busa engine hits 15 k easily ?

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post Dec 16 2010, 05:35 PM
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You can always go the route I am. Turbo Rotary. You can get 500hp easy and it will rev to 10K. $4-5K will get you a good used engine to start with along with all the parts to install it.
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post Dec 16 2010, 05:53 PM
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You can always go the route I am. Turbo Rotary. You can get 500hp easy and it will rev to 10K. $4-5K will get you a good used engine to start with along with all the parts to install it.


Easy? You can show us how easy after you have it up & runnin'.
The only "easy" part is talking about it.
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post Dec 16 2010, 06:54 PM
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One issue is that this motor is not legel to put into a car for SCCA. If you do it then you will be put into AMod.
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post Dec 16 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 16 2010, 12:10 PM) *
Please give me your thought's .

Do a search ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


It's been discussed before. In length ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But I think I remember we discussed lots of hp but not enough torque and puny clutch
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:05 PM
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There are quite a few motorcycle engine'd Lotus 7 replica's/ one offs.
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:18 PM
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:37 PM
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Easy? You can show us how easy after you have it up & runnin'.
The only "easy" part is talking about it.

Here's a picture of one for the Non beleivers... Courtesy of Rotary14

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Or if you want super high HP and a custom install. Go this route... T.M.C. (Too Much Custom) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

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post Dec 16 2010, 07:43 PM
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Or if you want super high HP and a custom install. Go this route... T.M.C. (Too Much Custom) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

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This is an advantage how? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:45 PM
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That would be cool.

It would lose a few hundred pounds from the sheet metal, the transaxle, and cooling tins. The trailing arms and brakes would be swapped out for something a little lighter.

Using fiberglass fenders and hood up front along with a small fuel cell in the spare tire hole would further the diet plan. Then get rid of all the heating stuff (who would drive it in the cold weather? )

Adding a GT headlight kit would get rid of the pop up motor weight.

I bet the car could be made light enough to go for a 'busa engine.
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post Dec 16 2010, 08:07 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) My father in law has a busa, still in the bike, I wonder if he would notice it missing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) The T-Rex is a cool cart!
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