 Any body doing this ? 914 w/Hayabusa motor . ?, pro's con's , support or poke holes. Wtb : your 2 cents |
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| thelogo |
 Dec 16 2010, 02:10 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-SUZUKI-H...ht_10790wt_1167
Just wondering would this engine be viable for a conversion . It makes good power . small , water cooled . f. i . wet sump . Is it as simple as toss the type 4 . clutch adapter kit and wiring or is it much more complex . The radiator is Tiny . smaller then most oil coolers ? so It would not need front mounted huge heat exchanger ? for some reason it runs right next to the header pipe ??? Please give me your thought's . pro's con's cost s ability to go back to type 4 motor if desired ? hey o . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbBfDOPeZ2g (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Much respect and thank you to BOB FELLER > for being a positive role model (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Attached thumbnail(s)  
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| underthetire |
Dec 16 2010, 02:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Plenty of busa conversions, havn't seen one in a 914. Initial torque might be an issue.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlJ_Idds3Ts...feature=related |
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| GeorgeRud |
Dec 16 2010, 02:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Naw, save these motors for conversions into Smart Cars and old school Minis, they really make those cars fly!
I wondor how one would work in a LoCost (Lotus 7 homemade replica). |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 16 2010, 02:38 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 16 2010, 12:10 PM)  Please give me your thought's . Do a search ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's been discussed before. In length ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| RJMII |
Dec 16 2010, 02:41 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
I've been eyeballing these units for sometime now. My plan is to build a sandrail (the Baracuda by the EDGE) with a 'busa power plant.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.sandbullet.com-8112-1292532070.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.sandbullet.com-8112-1292532072.2.jpg) Rear dif with reverse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE new rear drive system can be done with or with out reverse but also includes the following features: Chain drive with rear sprocket as large as 72 tooth Inboard or out board brakes Limited slip differential or solid axle 930 CV output Adjust chain tension on chain roller needed (http://www.sandbullet.com) |
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| RJMII |
Dec 16 2010, 02:43 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
my $.02 would be: just do it. stop hashing it out and do it. If you do it right, you will prove one way or the other and you will know what broke in the process. The mythbusters would be proud.
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| Porcharu |
Dec 16 2010, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
I want the V8 version like the one Radical sells for $$$$. Someone in the midwest used to make the crankcase assembly's that you bolted 2 sets of cylinders and heads onto.
2.6 liters of screaming little V8 would be a blast in a 914. |
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| Mike Bellis |
Dec 16 2010, 04:30 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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| michaelt55 |
Dec 16 2010, 04:43 PM
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Graduate of Life's experiences Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 2-September 06 From: Richmond, Texas Member No.: 6,753 Region Association: None |
too rich for my blood...as said on commercials..I could of had a V8...
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| thelogo |
Dec 16 2010, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(michaelt55 @ Dec 16 2010, 02:43 PM) too rich for my blood...as said on commercials..I could of had a V8... I agree that h1 v8 / ocho is too much $ the 4 cyc busa on ebay is pushing it at . 4.5 k I think i'll start letting budget navigate for a moment and see what alternative motors that yields / ? but for 27 k i'd have to go / Ford COsworth Subaru engine ? linky : http://www.cosworthusa.com/store/pc/viewCa...sp?idCategory=2 and anybody know if you could get 400 horse from a por.6 naturally asp . that would rev to 10 k . you'd be thinking expensive motor every time you blew it up !!! I assume busa engine hits 15 k easily ? |
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| Mike Bellis |
Dec 16 2010, 05:35 PM
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You can always go the route I am. Turbo Rotary. You can get 500hp easy and it will rev to 10K. $4-5K will get you a good used engine to start with along with all the parts to install it.
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| J P Stein |
Dec 16 2010, 05:53 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Dec 16 2010, 03:35 PM) You can always go the route I am. Turbo Rotary. You can get 500hp easy and it will rev to 10K. $4-5K will get you a good used engine to start with along with all the parts to install it. Easy? You can show us how easy after you have it up & runnin'. The only "easy" part is talking about it. |
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| Britain Smith |
Dec 16 2010, 06:54 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
One issue is that this motor is not legel to put into a car for SCCA. If you do it then you will be put into AMod.
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| rick 918-S |
Dec 16 2010, 06:59 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,785 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 16 2010, 02:38 PM) QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 16 2010, 12:10 PM) Please give me your thought's . Do a search ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's been discussed before. In length ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But I think I remember we discussed lots of hp but not enough torque and puny clutch |
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| Andyrew |
Dec 16 2010, 07:05 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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There are quite a few motorcycle engine'd Lotus 7 replica's/ one offs.
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| oldschool |
Dec 16 2010, 07:18 PM
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how about this ......
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| Mike Bellis |
Dec 16 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 16 2010, 03:53 PM) Easy? You can show us how easy after you have it up & runnin'. The only "easy" part is talking about it. Here's a picture of one for the Non beleivers... Courtesy of Rotary14  Or if you want super high HP and a custom install. Go this route... T.M.C. (Too Much Custom) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)  |
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| tomeric914 |
Dec 16 2010, 07:43 PM
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One Lap of America in a 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,263 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 9,101 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Dec 16 2010, 08:37 PM) Or if you want super high HP and a custom install. Go this route... T.M.C. (Too Much Custom) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) This is an advantage how? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| RJMII |
Dec 16 2010, 07:45 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(oldschool @ Dec 16 2010, 06:18 PM) how about this ...... That would be cool. It would lose a few hundred pounds from the sheet metal, the transaxle, and cooling tins. The trailing arms and brakes would be swapped out for something a little lighter. Using fiberglass fenders and hood up front along with a small fuel cell in the spare tire hole would further the diet plan. Then get rid of all the heating stuff (who would drive it in the cold weather? ) Adding a GT headlight kit would get rid of the pop up motor weight. I bet the car could be made light enough to go for a 'busa engine. |
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| raw1298 |
Dec 16 2010, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) My father in law has a busa, still in the bike, I wonder if he would notice it missing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) The T-Rex is a cool cart!
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