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> Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall!
Mike Bellis
post Jan 28 2011, 08:25 PM
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It looks like nothings wrong with that pump. Most Mopar pump use thinner stamped steel blades. What's the plan with the pump?
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post Jan 28 2011, 11:16 PM
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Replace it anyways. Its the pump that came with my kit and i was unsure of its condition. Ill just replace it with the cast unit and keep the old unit as a spare.

Matt, funny, i had some bus axles but couldnt find anyone who had the adapters for sale. Thanks for te compliment on the wheels!
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post Jan 29 2011, 07:56 PM
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Progress so far today. Been working since 9am, unfortunately things would have gone a lot easier if the water pump wasnt giving me problems the whole time... I shall explain..

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First off I took off every piece so that I could clean everything for reinstall, This piece above was pitted really bad so I took some sand paper on the flat work bench and sanded it down, but as you can see this is about 1/2 way through.

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Here is where I said F~ it, its good enough.

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Then I started on the housing, and got it so it flowed a little better..

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I then went and said OK and put sealant and gaskets and buttoned everything up. However I never checked to see if it spun... This would cause me 2 hours searching for another gasket later... Then when I put the pully on I noticed it didnt spin. Shit. Took it apart and noticed that there was a step in the housing and it caused for the impeller to touch the
housing.. So about an hour or more of grinding on the housing and a little of the impeller it finally fit.

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I decided to put a couple of lips on the pipes to prevent slipage. I also took the dremel and ruffed it up as well(not in photo).

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Threw on some silicone on the treads as the bolts go directly into the housing.

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This had silicone on them that had hardened completely (probably 15 years old or more) and needed the impact gun to break loose. Replaced thermostat (ECU thermostat).



So after finding a gasket (2 hours... no one likes MOPARs) I set to get everything back together. Took a couple of tries to get the water pump braket oriented correctly but finally I got it in and installed.

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Completed unit


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Installed

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Oil changed (Left out drain plug... lost about 3 quarts... yay)


What to do next? I have all night.....
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post Jan 29 2011, 08:02 PM
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I like Mopars. Here's a pic of my old car...

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Keep it up Andrew! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 29 2011, 08:21 PM
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Thats a bad ass mopar mike!
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post Jan 30 2011, 02:08 AM
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Bit the bullet.

Started ~ 8 finished ~ 11.

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Needs some more bondo, really just needs a skim of glaze puddy.

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Fiberglass low area's poking through, time for primer filler then another run with the sanding block.

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Getting better..

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Need to reinforce the fender before I tackle more of this area, It should be pretty flat though.

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Next was the door. Needs primer filler.

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3 hrs work... Need to get me some supplies! Tuesday afternoon I am free so i'll be tackling it more then with supplies in hand.


Supply list:
Kitty hair (bondo for fiberglass)
Bondo (Ok, I will say Plastic Filler)
Glaze puddy
Primer Filler
Guide Spray
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:20 AM
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Havent got a working compressor at the house yet so I did some work with the filler.

Unfortunately what I thought was Kitty Hair was actually Metal Ready.... I have no clue how that mix up happened. Im going back tomorrow to see if I can exchange.

So I decided to just use plastic some quality filler I had picked up instead.
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I first had to fill a hole probably from some aftermarket mirror.

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So here are the results. I might sand some tonight, I have 2 heat lamps on the body right now.
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All in all I used about 1/2 a quart. A lot more than I thought I would have. I laid it down thick at the rear fender, I didnt like how my sanding went so I wanted to give it another go.



Hopefully i get a compressor at before Saturday so I can lay down some primer filler. In the mean time its bondo and glaze putty and hours of sanding.
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post Feb 2 2011, 09:10 AM
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Dang Andrew...you really are serious about getting your car going again. Thanks for the updates!


Mike...loved your mopar machine. I had a built challenger in the day. Thought I was real smart and destroked a 440...what a disaster that was. Ran fine...gutless wonder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Feb 2 2011, 09:27 AM
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Lookin' good. Do you have a long board sander for the flat panels? I made a flexible one out of very thin pieces of oak. They worked great for smoothing over the curves in the fender tops.
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post Feb 2 2011, 10:30 AM
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Mark,
Yup, To be perfectly honest, I forgot to register for night classes this semester and couldnt get in, I decided to focus the time on the 914 VS other hobbies. Its been long enough.

Spoke I have a solid 24" one, and then a flexible 12" one. So far i've been ruffing it in with a 6" block and 80 grit. Ill be hitting it with the 12" board over the fenders next and take it to 160 or so then its primer filler to do the real smoothing.

I really dont like the transition from the rear fender to the door, but there isnt much I can do about it.

Tomorrow i'll line up my tools and take a pic for refference. Im sure I need some more tools before this car is painted.
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post Feb 2 2011, 06:41 PM
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andrew, you planning on spraying it? sounds like you need a compresor? you can use mine as soon as it finds it's way home from coperopolis, i have a pnumatic flat board sander your welcome to use too.
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post Feb 2 2011, 07:24 PM
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Andrew,

What type of flares are those? How wide will the let you put under there?
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Aren't those just 911SC flares? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

[Mike will get my joke]

Oh, and Andyrew, you're making great progress. Love to see this thread bump up to the top on a regular basis.
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QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 2 2011, 06:58 PM) *

Aren't those just 911SC flares? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

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post Feb 3 2011, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Feb 2 2011, 04:41 PM) *

andrew, you planning on spraying it? sounds like you need a compresor? you can use mine as soon as it finds it's way home from coperopolis, i have a pnumatic flat board sander your welcome to use too.

Mike,

Sounds great! I might not need the compressor but the flatboard sander would be AWESOME! I have 2 old compressors that im going to try and make work and my dads big compressor if I have to.

I'll call you tomorrow!

Mike,

HPH flares, same as the ones Mark just posted on the NEO thread. Im close to max. Probably a little bigger up front, I know guys that run 10.5 race slicks all 4 corners IIRC (or 10.5's rear 9.5's front) I might be able to fit 305's or something in the back and 275's in the front, but 255's and 285's are fine for me, good cheap availible sizes.

Mark,

Thanks! I try and sneak out to the garage as much as I can. The easy stuff is all done now, its about the long tedious stuff now (bodywork), so the more time I get to spend on it the quicker it will be done, but it IS going to take time. I am excited about the progress that I have made so far!

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Got some more filler layed down

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These were some problem areas that I was really concerned about. So far they are coming out really well.
Only spent about 2 hours on it unfortunately. A bunch of other things came into play today.


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Finished off with some Margarita's and Fajita's!
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 4 2011, 09:36 PM) *

Got some more filler layed down

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Finished off with some Margarita's and Fajita's!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now we're talking "real progress."
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They were Yummy!


Today I didnt get near as far as I had hoped... Did about 1.5 hours of sanding and then spent the rest of the day trying to fix the washing machine... New machine, Old house... Overflow issue. Still isnt resoved but it works..

Ill put about 2 hours in tomorrow and post of pictures then.
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Got a little progress today before the game started.
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Finished the filler for the rear fender. From here its final sanding prior to primer filler. Still have some more work to do to get the front fender ready for primer filler.

Ran out of filler so I decided to get working on the targa bar as I could make noise without worry. I still had to finish grinding and rewelding the lip on the targa bar to eliminate it and make the bar smooth (no chrome pieces on the bar)

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Wanted to protect the bondo from the welding. 1/8" MDF board works pretty well.

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Tack welded it up to test it out.

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Stitchwelded it.
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All welded up.

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Highest points of the weld. The top portion is the lip all ground down and welded solid. I'll finish grind it later when I apply some filler.

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Started work on the other side. I think I might finish it tonight depending on how late this football game goes.
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post Feb 7 2011, 12:32 AM
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Finished up sanding the LR fender tonight. I was afraid the area around the tail light would need some more filler and I was right... darn it I knew I should have laid it more evenly.. BUT the rest of the fender is DONE with filler. Needs primer filler and final sanding.

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Front fender got some sanding as well, then I got tired of the dust kicking back at me (I typically have the fan on and door open, but it was night and cold..) so I called it a night.

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