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> Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall!
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post Feb 2 2011, 12:20 AM
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Havent got a working compressor at the house yet so I did some work with the filler.

Unfortunately what I thought was Kitty Hair was actually Metal Ready.... I have no clue how that mix up happened. Im going back tomorrow to see if I can exchange.

So I decided to just use plastic some quality filler I had picked up instead.
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I first had to fill a hole probably from some aftermarket mirror.

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So here are the results. I might sand some tonight, I have 2 heat lamps on the body right now.
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All in all I used about 1/2 a quart. A lot more than I thought I would have. I laid it down thick at the rear fender, I didnt like how my sanding went so I wanted to give it another go.



Hopefully i get a compressor at before Saturday so I can lay down some primer filler. In the mean time its bondo and glaze putty and hours of sanding.
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Dang Andrew...you really are serious about getting your car going again. Thanks for the updates!


Mike...loved your mopar machine. I had a built challenger in the day. Thought I was real smart and destroked a 440...what a disaster that was. Ran fine...gutless wonder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Lookin' good. Do you have a long board sander for the flat panels? I made a flexible one out of very thin pieces of oak. They worked great for smoothing over the curves in the fender tops.
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post Feb 2 2011, 10:30 AM
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Mark,
Yup, To be perfectly honest, I forgot to register for night classes this semester and couldnt get in, I decided to focus the time on the 914 VS other hobbies. Its been long enough.

Spoke I have a solid 24" one, and then a flexible 12" one. So far i've been ruffing it in with a 6" block and 80 grit. Ill be hitting it with the 12" board over the fenders next and take it to 160 or so then its primer filler to do the real smoothing.

I really dont like the transition from the rear fender to the door, but there isnt much I can do about it.

Tomorrow i'll line up my tools and take a pic for refference. Im sure I need some more tools before this car is painted.
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post Feb 2 2011, 06:41 PM
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andrew, you planning on spraying it? sounds like you need a compresor? you can use mine as soon as it finds it's way home from coperopolis, i have a pnumatic flat board sander your welcome to use too.
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Andrew,

What type of flares are those? How wide will the let you put under there?
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Aren't those just 911SC flares? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

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Oh, and Andyrew, you're making great progress. Love to see this thread bump up to the top on a regular basis.
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QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 2 2011, 06:58 PM) *

Aren't those just 911SC flares? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

[Mike will get my joke]


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post Feb 3 2011, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Feb 2 2011, 04:41 PM) *

andrew, you planning on spraying it? sounds like you need a compresor? you can use mine as soon as it finds it's way home from coperopolis, i have a pnumatic flat board sander your welcome to use too.

Mike,

Sounds great! I might not need the compressor but the flatboard sander would be AWESOME! I have 2 old compressors that im going to try and make work and my dads big compressor if I have to.

I'll call you tomorrow!

Mike,

HPH flares, same as the ones Mark just posted on the NEO thread. Im close to max. Probably a little bigger up front, I know guys that run 10.5 race slicks all 4 corners IIRC (or 10.5's rear 9.5's front) I might be able to fit 305's or something in the back and 275's in the front, but 255's and 285's are fine for me, good cheap availible sizes.

Mark,

Thanks! I try and sneak out to the garage as much as I can. The easy stuff is all done now, its about the long tedious stuff now (bodywork), so the more time I get to spend on it the quicker it will be done, but it IS going to take time. I am excited about the progress that I have made so far!

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post Feb 4 2011, 11:36 PM
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Got some more filler layed down

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These were some problem areas that I was really concerned about. So far they are coming out really well.
Only spent about 2 hours on it unfortunately. A bunch of other things came into play today.


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Finished off with some Margarita's and Fajita's!
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 4 2011, 09:36 PM) *

Got some more filler layed down

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Finished off with some Margarita's and Fajita's!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now we're talking "real progress."
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post Feb 5 2011, 08:17 PM
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They were Yummy!


Today I didnt get near as far as I had hoped... Did about 1.5 hours of sanding and then spent the rest of the day trying to fix the washing machine... New machine, Old house... Overflow issue. Still isnt resoved but it works..

Ill put about 2 hours in tomorrow and post of pictures then.
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post Feb 6 2011, 08:39 PM
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Got a little progress today before the game started.
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Finished the filler for the rear fender. From here its final sanding prior to primer filler. Still have some more work to do to get the front fender ready for primer filler.

Ran out of filler so I decided to get working on the targa bar as I could make noise without worry. I still had to finish grinding and rewelding the lip on the targa bar to eliminate it and make the bar smooth (no chrome pieces on the bar)

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Wanted to protect the bondo from the welding. 1/8" MDF board works pretty well.

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Tack welded it up to test it out.

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Stitchwelded it.
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All welded up.

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Highest points of the weld. The top portion is the lip all ground down and welded solid. I'll finish grind it later when I apply some filler.

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Started work on the other side. I think I might finish it tonight depending on how late this football game goes.
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Finished up sanding the LR fender tonight. I was afraid the area around the tail light would need some more filler and I was right... darn it I knew I should have laid it more evenly.. BUT the rest of the fender is DONE with filler. Needs primer filler and final sanding.

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Front fender got some sanding as well, then I got tired of the dust kicking back at me (I typically have the fan on and door open, but it was night and cold..) so I called it a night.

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Made some progress yesteday and today. Not enough yesterday to post... (Mixed and laid some small batches of filler)

But I bought some filler. Supposed to be better than the other stuff.
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Put the front bumper on and made some tape and marks for myself. Still need to put it on again and redo it. both the bumper and the body are going to take quite a bit of work to look right together (yay fiberglass bumpers...) I think im going to get the body where I like it and just match the bumper.

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Noticed a low spot on the door. Filled it in some. (This is the stuff i'll notice when I actually throw some primer filler and guide coat on...)

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This is prior to 2 more applications of filler... Last application I said "fudge it" and laid it on thick.. Took 20 mins of my lunch to sand it today.. Arg..

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I was done with working on the fenders (for now) so I decided I would pull the supports off the spoiler. took some finessing, but I got them loose.

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And I then removed the rivets holding it on.

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Threw the light in to get a look at what I was dealing with. I love the spoiler, but I love a clean rear end as well... Thoughts anyone?

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Since the trunk was clear, I figured it was a good time to plug the holes from the previous ducktail spoiler. They were good sized holes, but nothing some welding cant fix (I actually couldnt get a block behind it because of the double layers, but it filled just fine) The spoiler actually hides all but 1/2 of these holes, but I figured I would clean it up anyways in-case water got in.

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I then decided to work on the targa bar some. ground down and welded @6" intervals, then i'll grind all of it down and weld it. (6" intervals was to keep the targa bar from splitting.

I need to get me a bigger grinder... This is tedious... A big 9" with 36 grit pads would be wonderful... My 4.5" works, but the grinding stones are only good when they are really fresh... Meh, maybe i'll just buy a bunch of stones...

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Finally I decided to longboard sand the trunk.... Whoooo eeee I got a lot of work to do.... Im debating a bunch of primer filler, or just skim it with glazing puddy and flat board it... Tough decisions... Maybe i'll hammer and dolly it (However most of the area's I WOULD do that in have the trunk reinforcing behind it... I do have my Map/Oxygen tanks... I could shrink them (and risk some oil canning..). Im looking for suggestions here as well..
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Got a little progress
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Wanted to protect the bondo from the welding. 1/8" MDF board works pretty well.



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Haha! Nah, that wouldnt be over the top now would it?
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Yup, You need to do a dually rear set up to get tires wide enough. Maybe from a chevy pick up.....just kidding. Looks really good.
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Yup, Bodywork is always extremely laborous... Especially something like this where I have to create my own body lines.. There is a lot of "That looks like shit, what if I do this", And certainly plenty of "Well, I could do this, but Eh Its good enough". Those kind of lines are what makes the difference in the final sanding.. Its rediculous how much more work I have to do, but its what you have to do for a decent paint job..

I have been pushing a lot of time lately towards my new washer/dryer... It works fine, but the drain for it @ the house can not keep up with the pump.. I've been doing some serious engineering to get this stupid thing to work and its costing a lot of money just to get it to work..


I just keep pushing for the day when I can finally lay down some Phoenix Red... Mmmm that color is sooo pretty.
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